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Post by cnw on Nov 30, 2017 15:36:30 GMT -6
As one of the British yards, the lack of superfiring B turret doesn't do my designs any favors either
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Post by theexecuter on Nov 30, 2017 19:29:18 GMT -6
As one of the German yards I am finding it massively irritating that we are still stuck on friggin 13" guns The Americans are still functionally stuck at 13" guns too. We have 14", but they are quality -1. I'm grateful the boffins finally decided destroyers might be bigger than 700 tons...
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Post by dorn on Dec 1, 2017 3:37:18 GMT -6
As one of the British yard, the lack of superfiring B turret doesn't do my designs any favors either This is not something I am surprised however I am quite surprised backward of weight saving technologies in hull, armor and especially machinery. With such technology there is no point to build British design fast. But AoN armor scheme is quite bonus to design and it is not usually British who invent it first. But British light force doctrine is top class too.
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Post by cv10 on Dec 1, 2017 16:38:45 GMT -6
FCM is proud to present is submissions for both the DD-1915 and BB/CC-1915 Competition: BB/CC-1915: Submission of 1 BB and 1 CC design respectively FCM-Martel Design Dreadnought (BB)General Characteristics- 36,000 tons displacement
- 747 Officers and Ratings
- 30 months from start to finish
- 3.986 Million per month
Armament- Ten 14 Inch guns in broadside with all being twin turrets mounted on the center-line, with Super-firing B and V turrets.
- sixteen 5 Inch gun turrets for secondary armament, with 8 guns on either side.
- Director firing for main battery
Armor and Protection
- 13 Inch Belt with 4 Inch extensions
- 3 Inch deck armor with 2 Inch Extensions
- 12 Inches of armor on Conning Tower
- 13 Inches of armor on main battery turrets with 5 inch tops
- 1 Inch splinter shields on secondary battery
- Torpedo Protection II
Propulsion- Capable of 20 knots with a medium cruising range
- Coal-fired engines without any particular focus
FCM-Chevalier Design Battle-cruiser (CC)
General Characteristics
36,000 tons displacement 770 Officers and Ratings 30 months from start to finish 4.407 Million per month Armament Eight 14 Inch guns in broadside with all being twin turrets mounted on the center-line, with Super-firing B and V turrets. Fourteen 5 Inch gun turrets for secondary armament, with 7 guns on either side. Director firing for main battery Armor and Protection 10 Inch Belt with 2 Inch extensions 2 Inch deck armor with 2 Inch Extensions8 Inches of armor on Conning Tower 13 Inches of armor on main battery turrets with 4 inch tops 1 Inch splinter shields on secondary battery Torpedo Protection II Propulsion Capable of 30 knots with a medium cruising range Coal-fired engines without any particular focus DD-1915 Competition:
FCM-Spahi Design DD General Characteristics
900 tons displacement 98 Officers and Ratings 10 months from start to finish 319,000 per month Armament
Five 4 Inch guns in broadside with cross-deck firing pair Two twin-torpedo tubes with one mounted on each side: total of 4 torpedo tubesDirector firing for main battery Capability to deploy 10 mines from mine rack Propulsion
Capable of 31 knots with a medium cruising range Coal-fired engines with a speed focus Attachments:
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Post by boomboomf22 on Dec 1, 2017 21:40:56 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure your BC doesn't meet requirements as the design thingy said 12.5" belt and turrets.
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Post by matlef on Dec 2, 2017 19:03:07 GMT -6
GNA is happy to be able to submit our designs for the 1915 competitions. GNA DD1915a
A quick destroyer armed with 3x1 5" guns on the centerline giving it firepower to fight other destroyers and even smaller cruisers with hte fast firing but still potent 5" gun. A speed of 32 knots makes it able to outrun it's opponents but hte pride of the ship is the 6 torpedo broadsidepossible from it's 4 double torpedo tubes. GNA BB1915a
Our battleship design is what we feel the best compromise between speed, armour and armament that chinese industry can achieve. Armed with 4x2 14" guns in superfiring B&V turrets, 18 6" guns in casemates ensures protection from any torpedo attack. 14" of belt armour tapering to 3" on the FC and the QD. 3" of deck armour to protect from plunging fire and 15" turret armour. And not is it a slow ship either, with a speed of 24 knots it is faster than any other battleship now afloat, and comparable to the British " Incomparable" class BC in speed, being just 1 knot slower and far better armoured. GNA BC1915a
The BC1915a design is the BB design with the armour and secondary battery reduced to achieve a speed of 28 knots. While we are of course proud of our designers we nevertheless believe that the 4 knots speed advantage this design have over the BB version does not outweigh the comprimises in armour and armament.
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Post by matlef on Dec 2, 2017 19:07:54 GMT -6
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Post by rimbecano on Dec 3, 2017 0:04:07 GMT -6
MHNA's bid for DD1915 is a 34-knot, 1100 ton destroyer with 4 4-inch guns in a AFKY cross-deck configuration. The design carries 6 torpedo tubes, and carries a minimal coal supply to free up tonnage. Our proposal for the CC1915 project carries a broadside of 9 14-inch guns in an ABL configuration. The speed is 28 knots on a 33600 ton displacement. Belt and deck armor are 12.5 and 3.5 inches, respectively, with 14-inch turret faces and 5-inch turret rooves. The secondary armament is 20 6-inch guns in casemates. The ship is provided with a full set of underwater torpedo tubes in case of unexpected actions at night or in poor weather, as well as to provide a finishing weapon in daytime actions. Our BB1915 proposal is meant to provide a budget alternative to CC1915. It carries improved protection, in particular, thicker turret faces, and four extra secondary guns, while reducing machinery costs and with a reduction in speed to 22 knots and a reduction in tonnage of 2000 tons. This provides a modest improvement in speed over Kwang-Chou-Wan, without wasting too much of the newer ship's potential when it operates in concert with the older ship.
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Post by rimbecano on Dec 3, 2017 0:05:15 GMT -6
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Post by aeson on Dec 4, 2017 15:48:41 GMT -6
Congratulations to Humber Estuary Shipbuilding, whose BC1915-1 proposal will enter service with the Imperial Chinese Navy as Chao Yung. Honorable mention to Hamson, Ltd's 16" proposal, which unfortunately had to be ruled out due to its cost. As for the destroyer component of this design competition, the Navy has decided to order four ships to the Hamson, Ltd DD1915_Hamson_update proposal for evaluation, to enter service as the Lei Li class, and eight ships to the more conservative Clark Family Shipbuilding DD1915 proposal, to enter service as the Kuang Yuan class. We also appear to have run out of proper names for our destroyers halfway through initial batch of the Kuang Yuan class. I'm fine with leaving the destroyers as T-#, but if the political advisors feel that proper names would be better I am open to suggestions. I reserve the right to veto anything that I feel to be too silly, however. I don't expect to post an update on gameplay until this coming weekend (December 10-11), which means that the next design competition is likely to be posted close to the Christmas holiday and exam week for any of you who happen to be in college. Do we want to try to get through one more design competition before the holidays, or would people rather a long (1-1.5 month) break?
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Post by cnw on Dec 5, 2017 3:35:47 GMT -6
Yay for HES-built BC force..
Regarding the DD names issue - if you intend to keep the older DDs for second line duties, why not rename these along the letter-number scheme or something like that and use the thus freed proper names for the new builds?
As for the schedule, I'll adapt to either option.
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Post by theexecuter on Dec 5, 2017 14:05:50 GMT -6
Good choices on the ships.
Glad I was finally able to offer a worthwhile design.
I'm open for designs until the 17th, then I'll be back between Christmas and the New Year.
You can always get to the new design phase and give us the holiday period to work on them?
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Post by aeson on Dec 5, 2017 15:43:56 GMT -6
I'm open for designs until the 17th, then I'll be back between Christmas and the New Year. You can always get to the new design phase and give us the holiday period to work on them? I intend to get to the next design phase this weekend whether or not people want a long break; I just want to know if people want to have the holiday period to work on that design competition or if they want that design competition done with before the holidays and have another design competition after that which they can work on over or after the holidays. Sounds like you're up for either, though.
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Post by babylon218 on Dec 5, 2017 16:55:14 GMT -6
I'm up for either.
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Post by boomboomf22 on Dec 5, 2017 17:08:58 GMT -6
ditto
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