Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 5:58:44 GMT -6
Guess I shouldn't divert the F-35 thread much more - although quite related but this issue is much more social-political than military.
I'll start with a news piece. Not a grand NYTimes one, but down to earth daily stuff. And it is in Chinese, uhm... Not to worry, I'll translate the relevant parts!
pao-pao.net/article/997
Article titled "Escape from China". A Chinese indie journalist comes to visit his friend in a Canadian city. They come to Chinatown, talk about the mindsets of overseas Chinese immigrants (it's not great), and sit down for lunch. Translation starts from here.
The ideological business chain
When everybody gathered, we started drinking. The owner brought over a few more beers, and said in a heavy Cantonese dialect: "Free, free!", his facial expression the same as when we told him we were Old Chen's friends. (from previous section when they entered the restaurant.) Puzzled, I asked C (the journo's friend, who is a student): "Do you know each other?" He smiled mysteriously: "This is to pay respect to the student union." (In Chinese it is "give face to" which means "pay respect to").
I'd heard about the famous and mysterious student union, which are often reported by the media with hints of intelligence gathering activities and disruptions on education in free countries. I didn't realize they were associated with free beer. C introduced me to M who came from the US for a holiday, and said that student unions over there are "exactly the same".
M told me that many Chinese don't speak English that well and are heavily reliant on Chinese language social media. They rarely use Facebook or Twitter. Many follow official accounts of student unions on Wechat. (A Chinese cellphone IM app similar to Whatsapp.)
The student union media platforms, together with many low grade Chinese language media, form the spiritual intake of these guys. The student union platforms are even a great source for monetary income, as it is said that many Chinese owned supermarkets and diners ask them to push their ads. Old Chen is indeed a guy that works at the student union, it is said that he even paid an "honorary visit" to the Chinese embassy, which is why Old Chen's name could honorably conquer the entire restaurant, plus nicking a few free beers on the way.
Whether an ad gets pushed depends on strict censorship. Political censorship. Legends say the owner needs to be able to recite "socialist core values", but that is unverified. I'm shocked: with so many medium outlets in the US, why do you have to publish your ads on a small Chinese public account? M remarked, "That is also the power of the student union."
On the one hand, the customers of Chinese diners and marts are mainly Chinese, who are claustrophobic, hard to integrate into local societies, and unable to master the English language. The optimum choice is thus to post the ad on a Chinese language platform. On the other hand, if the owner openly declares himself against the Chinese government while his ads are posted on other media outlets, the student union would start a slander campaign, that would classify him as "hostile anti-China", "shameless traitor", and cut off all cooperation.
"There are those who do not believe in evil and don't give sh*t about the student union. They would then not expect a prosperous business, but fill their belly at best." C said, "I admire those with a spine." He told me that nobody here today have clearly stated to be with the union.
It is said that funds of the student union come from China, from videotaping old Chinese women dancing in front of city halls, to boycotting people that the government doesn't like (such as exiled Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama), all of these get you subsidies. If one were to write an article called something like "the Rise of the Motherland", remuneration fees would be even higher than average media publications. It is said that "worked for the student union" on the resume even gets you better jobs - probably for those that seek jobs back home.
"People wouldn't express different opinions. It's not that they cherish that boxed lunch, but the students' relatives are still back in the country... you know that." M shake his head regrettably.
Chinese diners, Chinatown, local Chinese news platforms, Chinese student unions, Chinese embassy. A sizable ideological business chain.
Other than large media's Chinese editions, overseas Chinese media are mostly unprofessional. They're click-baits using fake news and gossip. More importantly, these Chinese media are critical weapons in the hands of the government in carrying out the "Big Overseas Propaganda" strategy.
The Chinese government has been aggressively pushing China's "soft power" internationally. Overseas Chinese medias are considered to "Shoulder the heavy burden of demonstrating Chinese culture's soft power". China has also been actively expanding the effects of overseas Chinese media via massive investments. Mainland Chinese media's reports often quote "according to foreign media", among them many are these "third rate" foreign medias, plus "pro-China" and "well self-censored" ones, which are considered spokespersons for the authorities. The key problem, however, is not how many foreign media speaks for China, or how many hold a pro-China position, but in the Chinese language environment where the news is strictly censored, the voice of criticism is systematically blocked outside the door.
END of translation.
My own thoughts: NOT EVERY CHINESE STUDENT/CHINESE IMMIGRANT is as described in the article. This is a peculiar sector of the Chinese community - I've personally seen COMPLETELY different and very decent guys. However the effect of China's overseas ideological reach is dissected very well in a microscopic scope...
The P... well someone very important implied in a dinner that everybody in a group are spies
www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/donald-trump-china-spies
Which is a huge over statement, but it is not with zero basis. Again, as we can see the issue is immensely complicated.
First one is relatively light weight/low level. More to come....
I'll start with a news piece. Not a grand NYTimes one, but down to earth daily stuff. And it is in Chinese, uhm... Not to worry, I'll translate the relevant parts!
pao-pao.net/article/997
Article titled "Escape from China". A Chinese indie journalist comes to visit his friend in a Canadian city. They come to Chinatown, talk about the mindsets of overseas Chinese immigrants (it's not great), and sit down for lunch. Translation starts from here.
The ideological business chain
When everybody gathered, we started drinking. The owner brought over a few more beers, and said in a heavy Cantonese dialect: "Free, free!", his facial expression the same as when we told him we were Old Chen's friends. (from previous section when they entered the restaurant.) Puzzled, I asked C (the journo's friend, who is a student): "Do you know each other?" He smiled mysteriously: "This is to pay respect to the student union." (In Chinese it is "give face to" which means "pay respect to").
I'd heard about the famous and mysterious student union, which are often reported by the media with hints of intelligence gathering activities and disruptions on education in free countries. I didn't realize they were associated with free beer. C introduced me to M who came from the US for a holiday, and said that student unions over there are "exactly the same".
M told me that many Chinese don't speak English that well and are heavily reliant on Chinese language social media. They rarely use Facebook or Twitter. Many follow official accounts of student unions on Wechat. (A Chinese cellphone IM app similar to Whatsapp.)
The student union media platforms, together with many low grade Chinese language media, form the spiritual intake of these guys. The student union platforms are even a great source for monetary income, as it is said that many Chinese owned supermarkets and diners ask them to push their ads. Old Chen is indeed a guy that works at the student union, it is said that he even paid an "honorary visit" to the Chinese embassy, which is why Old Chen's name could honorably conquer the entire restaurant, plus nicking a few free beers on the way.
Whether an ad gets pushed depends on strict censorship. Political censorship. Legends say the owner needs to be able to recite "socialist core values", but that is unverified. I'm shocked: with so many medium outlets in the US, why do you have to publish your ads on a small Chinese public account? M remarked, "That is also the power of the student union."
On the one hand, the customers of Chinese diners and marts are mainly Chinese, who are claustrophobic, hard to integrate into local societies, and unable to master the English language. The optimum choice is thus to post the ad on a Chinese language platform. On the other hand, if the owner openly declares himself against the Chinese government while his ads are posted on other media outlets, the student union would start a slander campaign, that would classify him as "hostile anti-China", "shameless traitor", and cut off all cooperation.
"There are those who do not believe in evil and don't give sh*t about the student union. They would then not expect a prosperous business, but fill their belly at best." C said, "I admire those with a spine." He told me that nobody here today have clearly stated to be with the union.
It is said that funds of the student union come from China, from videotaping old Chinese women dancing in front of city halls, to boycotting people that the government doesn't like (such as exiled Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama), all of these get you subsidies. If one were to write an article called something like "the Rise of the Motherland", remuneration fees would be even higher than average media publications. It is said that "worked for the student union" on the resume even gets you better jobs - probably for those that seek jobs back home.
"People wouldn't express different opinions. It's not that they cherish that boxed lunch, but the students' relatives are still back in the country... you know that." M shake his head regrettably.
Chinese diners, Chinatown, local Chinese news platforms, Chinese student unions, Chinese embassy. A sizable ideological business chain.
Other than large media's Chinese editions, overseas Chinese media are mostly unprofessional. They're click-baits using fake news and gossip. More importantly, these Chinese media are critical weapons in the hands of the government in carrying out the "Big Overseas Propaganda" strategy.
The Chinese government has been aggressively pushing China's "soft power" internationally. Overseas Chinese medias are considered to "Shoulder the heavy burden of demonstrating Chinese culture's soft power". China has also been actively expanding the effects of overseas Chinese media via massive investments. Mainland Chinese media's reports often quote "according to foreign media", among them many are these "third rate" foreign medias, plus "pro-China" and "well self-censored" ones, which are considered spokespersons for the authorities. The key problem, however, is not how many foreign media speaks for China, or how many hold a pro-China position, but in the Chinese language environment where the news is strictly censored, the voice of criticism is systematically blocked outside the door.
END of translation.
My own thoughts: NOT EVERY CHINESE STUDENT/CHINESE IMMIGRANT is as described in the article. This is a peculiar sector of the Chinese community - I've personally seen COMPLETELY different and very decent guys. However the effect of China's overseas ideological reach is dissected very well in a microscopic scope...
The P... well someone very important implied in a dinner that everybody in a group are spies
www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/donald-trump-china-spies
Which is a huge over statement, but it is not with zero basis. Again, as we can see the issue is immensely complicated.
First one is relatively light weight/low level. More to come....