Post by dorn on Oct 23, 2018 0:15:40 GMT -6
I completely agree with aeson .
The most important is what type of ships you would face.
In 8/1907 I designed in local shipyard dreadnought which 3 ships were built, one ship commissioned 5/1910, 2 ships commissioned in 12/1910, so practically at same time as Izmail.
There were designed with local technologies so all smaller powers (Italy, France, Japan, A-H) have similar qualities.
These battleships had on 20700 tons:
- 22 knots, medium range
- 5x2x12"/0 dreadnought type main battery protected by 10.5" armor, 2.5" on top
- 12x5" secondary guns with 2" armor
- 9.5" main belt, 2" BE
- 1.5" deck, 1" DE
- 11" conning tower
- TDS level 1
The enemy designs were not better so you can compare Izmail with these battleships. She can outclasses them by great margin, have better firepower, much better protection, much faster.
Izmail used ABY design because at that time it is most efficient especial for battlecruisers.
I do not like absence of BE and DE armor either however adding it to the design means you need sacrifice something else and it seems to me that there is nothing else that could be sacrifice with less consequences. And as you fight around 12.000 yards the secondary guns will not do much damage either and ship can take some damage to unarmored parts of ships till her speed is reduced too much. Later there is need to be more cautions but her armor is usually better than other nations battlecruisers so as long as you stay with optimal range your chances are still good.
She was designed to operate in any condition. She can operate against battlecruisers as design which could be dangerous to her usually comes 5 years later (I do not fight UK or US with Russia so I am not counting their designs). She can even fight battleships for some time if there is main force near to cover hear retreat if needed. But I usually use type of ships in large battles to cut enemy force from retreating back to port.
note: I would probably upgrade her with 15/Q+1 guns if there are available early but I have access to them in 1922 during war so it was out of question to make refit. And after the war she was too old to spent money on her.
The most important is what type of ships you would face.
In 8/1907 I designed in local shipyard dreadnought which 3 ships were built, one ship commissioned 5/1910, 2 ships commissioned in 12/1910, so practically at same time as Izmail.
There were designed with local technologies so all smaller powers (Italy, France, Japan, A-H) have similar qualities.
These battleships had on 20700 tons:
- 22 knots, medium range
- 5x2x12"/0 dreadnought type main battery protected by 10.5" armor, 2.5" on top
- 12x5" secondary guns with 2" armor
- 9.5" main belt, 2" BE
- 1.5" deck, 1" DE
- 11" conning tower
- TDS level 1
The enemy designs were not better so you can compare Izmail with these battleships. She can outclasses them by great margin, have better firepower, much better protection, much faster.
Izmail used ABY design because at that time it is most efficient especial for battlecruisers.
I do not like absence of BE and DE armor either however adding it to the design means you need sacrifice something else and it seems to me that there is nothing else that could be sacrifice with less consequences. And as you fight around 12.000 yards the secondary guns will not do much damage either and ship can take some damage to unarmored parts of ships till her speed is reduced too much. Later there is need to be more cautions but her armor is usually better than other nations battlecruisers so as long as you stay with optimal range your chances are still good.
She was designed to operate in any condition. She can operate against battlecruisers as design which could be dangerous to her usually comes 5 years later (I do not fight UK or US with Russia so I am not counting their designs). She can even fight battleships for some time if there is main force near to cover hear retreat if needed. But I usually use type of ships in large battles to cut enemy force from retreating back to port.
note: I would probably upgrade her with 15/Q+1 guns if there are available early but I have access to them in 1922 during war so it was out of question to make refit. And after the war she was too old to spent money on her.