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Post by dorn on Jan 2, 2020 11:43:00 GMT -6
It seems that France does not want to be on loosing side. 😉
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 2, 2020 12:01:39 GMT -6
Well well, we pulled one over on Them!! Though Italy was brought into the Anglo Alliance... The very next turn I was able to force France back in with us! Unfortunately this would be a very difficult war for Spain. With limited numbers and economy she must concentrate or die, and with America in the alliance I see no way to avoid losing the New World possessions. I am actually inclined to avoid this war now, as if Spain vs England was ever a good idea to begin with, but there is only one outcome which could "reset" the nations to un-pacted; a war with Austria. ...or let one of my alliances lapse and then go to war with them, but if not I am looking at a dicey situation for the rest of the game. And I have yet to deploy a single squadron of aircraft, I am still modernizing the fleet.
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Post by dorn on Jan 2, 2020 13:00:41 GMT -6
You put yourself into very difficult political situation. Good luck with your choice, it will be tough to do what you want.
Is it still time to build submarine fleet?
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 2, 2020 13:24:14 GMT -6
Nope. Though I do have 60 subs, but that is not a war-winning number. I included my aircraft types, but as all can see they are just in storage, I don't have an airfield or ship to hold them yet. The thing to remember (as I just told my staff as they were shooting tequila and looking around nervously) is that the war started with Italy. We've beaten her before, and we can again, and if we do then maybe England and America will not see a reason to continue.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 2, 2020 13:39:26 GMT -6
This is a ship upon which everything is gambled. Very similar to the Viribus Unitis, with similar compromises. And only my BCs have director firing.
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Post by director on Jan 2, 2020 16:59:17 GMT -6
Ah...
"Waiter, there's a man in the soup again."
"What is he doing there?"
"The backstroke, I think..."
Ba-dum *ching*
All I can say is you like the hot water a lot more than I do.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 2, 2020 20:15:21 GMT -6
One down, unfortunately the English speaking dogs fight on. I had Italy under constant blockade, despite being blockaded myself in the North Sea, and their government ultimately collapsed. I had a 5 point victory and could have claimed Rhodes Libya and Eritrea, but I didn't feel a need to extend myself that far east and decided the economy boost would really be more useful. There were some climactic battles, one of them won by my support force BC after my Flag was sunk. I invested heavily in land-based air and after a year it started to help, and ultimately they too almost entirely won a battle for me. Things are not comfortable in Madrid however, I'd probably have a Guards division stationed around the royal palace I'd bet...
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Post by director on Jan 3, 2020 1:25:54 GMT -6
Your phrase 'North Sea' threw me. Perhaps you meant North Atlantic?
Was going to say that 'Terrible' class is fine by me. I've always preferred a larger battery of smaller guns for gunnery purposes. The secondary battery is a little larger in caliber and fewer in number than I'd like and the speed is a tad slow - but not bad capital ships.
That unrest level is high... I'd have been tempted to take a colony like Rhodes, but then I've always liked to get a little land in a peace deal. "The proper currency of kings is territory," and all that.
If you see a chance for peace, I'd take it... but that's me. You, being the crazy crafty 'git you are, will probably fight on and somehow pull it out. But... unrest of 8 can flip to 10 in a heartbeat, so be careful.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 3, 2020 12:08:02 GMT -6
Your phrase 'North Sea' threw me. Perhaps you meant North Atlantic? Yes, silly of me, North Atlantic. And Boy Howdy, what a contest. I will have some screen-shots to post tonight, but I was just involved in my most ruinous RTW war ever. Not in major ship losses, but in what it did to my country long-term.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 4, 2020 1:22:06 GMT -6
So, I said it got pretty bad? Yes, that is 12 unrest. Yes, that is 78 months- 54 months after Italy collapsed. But did it stop there? No. Mercifully, it finally stopped Here; Seventy Four months after Italy surrendered, peace is finally agreed. This war was hellish. If you reference my 24-month post, note the size of the scroll bar for my ships; Now look at the 96 month image. 24 total ships left. True, about 10 (?) 300 ton corvettes had been decommissioned at that screen-cap, but still, the massive destroyer margin I have always depended on was gone. 87 ships were sunk between 1931 & 1939. 1 BC 2 B 1 CA 10 CL 53 DD 20 KE 31 sunk by submarine, including a B and 4 CLs. 20 DD & KE sunk by mine. The flow of the war was roller coaster. I abandoned the Atlantic leaving it with only a small cadre of cruisers and concentrated against Italy. This lead to the ultimate collapse of Italy, though several times England or America sent dreadnoughts into the Med to contest control. There were a pair of battles which I barely won in the Med, but the vast majority of the action was off the NW coast. These battles were the majority of the time fought and often won by 3 squadrons of torpedo bombers based at Ferrol. However the strain of the long war lost me the lead I briefly attained, and it was a fortunate thing to end the war when we did. As I expected, there was no way to keep the treasures of the New World... ...however, the ultimate goal of taking Gibraltar was accomplished by invasion, and Malta seized as well. So, 14 points of colonies lost, 8 gained. Strategically though perhaps owning Gibraltar is a consolation worth Cuba. However, the true cost of this war is not in its cost in steel and blood. In this war, this nearly 8 year war, Spain's economy was under almost constant blockade. The enemy increased its operational submarines and my escort losses mounted, especially as I could not afford to produce decent ASW escorts. But this was not due to technology but simple opportunity. By about the 3 year mark I had finally managed to build and equip my airbases, but I lost my budget margin. As I began to lose destroyers, I eliminated by tech budget and built the cheapest corvettes I could be content with. This swiftly proved to be barely within my capacity, and I even had to put the battleships into reserve or mothballs, and then as ships ran short for the Trade Protection requirement, my prestige falling and unrest peaking I placed capital ships into trade protection. This war essentially froze my economy, naval growth and technology for 6 years, and that is a sunk cost that cannot be recovered. And my 60 submarine force, despite adding 40 during the first 2 years, was reduced after 96 months to 0. Admiral Cerveza needs a holiday. And then to figure out what in the world to do next.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 27, 2020 0:01:37 GMT -6
Admittedly there have been 30-40 wars across 8-10 games in the space of time since this last one, but this next ruinous war still came a bit too close after Spain's 96 month slog- 12 years and 10 months is definitely my longest war ever.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Feb 2, 2020 13:29:27 GMT -6
...well All-Righty then.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Feb 2, 2020 17:50:23 GMT -6
So, Japan v Italy round two. Maybe life without jumping at shadows is that light at the end of the tunnel our Admiral sees. Early stages go well if un-excitingly, though two liners sunk in the same month means the submarine campaign is more restrained. Then, I had Ken Miles' "perfect lap." An unexpected battle. The Italian navy was trying to get supplies to North Korea. Let's see, what forces do I have available- Oh. Everything. For the first time I have deployed 10 fleet carriers together. My first wave was over 300 strike aircraft. The battle was over with the 2nd wave. I'd estimate this victory cost me less than 40 men. The only thing left to do is keep the politicians from taking this one away.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Feb 2, 2020 21:57:18 GMT -6
So, Japan v Italy round two. ... The only thing left to do is keep the politicians from taking this one away. *sounds of random violence and ancestor degradation from behind closed doors*
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Post by generalvikus on Feb 3, 2020 9:00:52 GMT -6
Is it a bug or a feature that VPs are reset when a new belligerent joins a war? Either way, I'd like to see it fixed.
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