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Post by admiralhood on Jan 29, 2019 23:52:51 GMT -6
My fellow admirals,
I know that March is already around the corner. However, wouldn't it be nice if a faction is allowed to purchase planes and request plane designs from a foreign arsenal? We are already able to palce orders of ships from a foreign shipyard in RTW1. A similar feature for planes in RTW2 is totally reasonable. Maybe we could implement it in the RTW2 expansion pack?
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Post by jwsmith26 on Jan 30, 2019 12:49:45 GMT -6
This idea has been brought up and discussed. Fredrik was not against the idea but indicated it would not be an easy task. At the moment it appears it will probably not make it into the initial release of RTW2 but you are correct that it is certainly a candidate for a follow-up modification or DLC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 14:39:39 GMT -6
Im really sure that the best option to release RTW 2 is to make it like it is - new, hopefully stable, and then to release a few more updates(patches), or maybe even DLCs, if there were enough content. Im absolutely sure that Im not the only one who would pay a significant amount of money for some solid DLC (possible 1880-1900, or 1950-1970 extension? Or submarine system overhaul?). If there are currently some more things worth adding to the game, it may possibly be better to add it in a patch, rather than stuff it into the initial release less than 2 months before the release date.
But thats just IMHO, I dont say that it is 100% right...
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Post by williammiller on Jan 30, 2019 16:21:01 GMT -6
We will certainly be adding some additional items to the game after release, based mainly on player feedback, and also what else we would really like to add to the game...this is pretty normal for NWS as most of you know. Now - really major items - some of those might be added in a DLC, or simply added to the base game; right now I won't speculate on specifics 'cause its premature for me to do so.
Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 16:48:23 GMT -6
Of course. I just wanted to inform you and the others that there will be at least some demand for DLCs and things like that. The rest is just brainstorming for the future...
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Post by dupe on Feb 8, 2019 9:03:51 GMT -6
Perhaps something a long the lines of a lend lease type ability to build an allied nation's plane models if you are at war. Not sure if that's easier or not to implement?
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Post by desdinova on Feb 8, 2019 16:17:52 GMT -6
With the exception of lend-lease due to extreme wartime scarcity, did any major naval powers ever purchase large numbers of foreign aircraft?
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Post by tbr on Feb 9, 2019 4:28:48 GMT -6
The French bought their carrier fighters (F-8s) in the US, the RN bought F4's and was planning to operate lots of them when the defence white paper hit. The USMC still flies Harriers, as did the Italians and Spanish. So there is precedent with many of the playable RTW nations for foreign carrier aircraft procurement.
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Post by jeb94 on Feb 9, 2019 14:07:25 GMT -6
The French bought their carrier fighters (F-8s) in the US, the RN bought F4's and was planning to operate lots of them when the defence white paper hit. The USMC still flies Harriers, as did the Italians and Spanish. So there is precedent with many of the playable RTW nations for foreign carrier aircraft procurement. That may be so for the NATO period but what about pre-1950?
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Post by oldpop2000 on Feb 9, 2019 14:41:19 GMT -6
The French bought their carrier fighters (F-8s) in the US, the RN bought F4's and was planning to operate lots of them when the defence white paper hit. The USMC still flies Harriers, as did the Italians and Spanish. So there is precedent with many of the playable RTW nations for foreign carrier aircraft procurement. That may be so for the NATO period but what about pre-1950? Just a note: While the original Harrier design was British, the USMC version was redesigned and built by MacAir. The plane was an Anglo-American development of both MacAir and Hawker. The new plane had a new wing, an elevated cockpit for visibility, redesigned fuselage, and one extra hardpoint per wing along with some additional aerodynamic and structural features. It does use an upgraded Pegasus engine. My point is that the bird is not really purchased from the British. They did not have the funding to continue supporting the development and the US did. The F-4's for the British were purchased for the Falkland Islands after the Falkland Islands War to provide air support for the islands. They were second hand F-4J that were purchased. There were the F-4M's and F-4K's . Our facility at NAS North Island upgraded those aircraft before they were sent to the Falklands. There were lots of different aircraft involved in lend-Lease prior to and during WW2. The Russians receive P-39's, Dakota transports, and others. The British received Mustang 2's, Martlet's, PBY Catalina's etc. Unfortunately for the French, their Air Force did not last long enough but the Free French did operate French aircraft in North Africa and P-40's along with British Blenheim's. They also used Hurricane's, F-5 photo recon aircraft, Ventura's, Baltimores, Halifax's, SBD's etc. They used what ever anyone would give them or they could take. This included JU-88's, He-177's, CANT Z Alcione's and He-46C.
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Post by tbr on Feb 9, 2019 16:23:13 GMT -6
The British chose to acquire the F4 for their carriers when they were planning with CATOBAR carriers, i.e. in the early 1960's. Eric "Winkle" Brown was the key "influencer" for this. When the defence white paper cancelled the CVA-01 project only Ark Royal could operate the F4's, which had already been purchased (with RR engines). Like the Buccaneers, the F4's went on to serve in the RAF after Ark Royal's decommissioning when the FAA went Harrier only.
This incidently led to Winkle's early retirement as his first planned RADM posting was deleted with the Defence White Paper and the Labour Defence Minister explicitly forbade his posting to Washington DC as military attachèe "to not send the wrong signals" (i.e. that there was a future for the FAA, at that point even the STOVL Invincible class was not being planned, the intention was to scrap all but rotary wing naval aviation). They sent a paymaster RN captain onto that DC posting, talk about adding insult to injury. IMO one of the Queens mistakes was not to upgrade Winkle's CB to a KCB in reaction, but the "honors" system in the UK was and is prone to mistakes and even abominations.
The F4's turned out to provide such good service that they took over the BE Lightning's air defense role and some additional F4's were procured later to bridge the gap until the ADV version of the Tornado was operational, that might be where your recollection sets in.
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Post by oldpop2000 on Feb 9, 2019 16:43:27 GMT -6
The British chose to acquire the F4 for their carriers when they were planning with CATOBAR carriers, i.e. in the early 1960's. Eric "Winkle" Brown was the key "influencer" for this. When the defence white paper cancelled the CVA-01 project only Ark Royal could operate the F4's, which had already been purchased (with RR engines). Like the Buccaneers, the F4's went on to serve in the RAF after Ark Royal's decommissioning when the FAA went Harrier only. This incidently led to Winkle's early retirement as his first planned RADM posting was deleted with the Defence White Paper and the Labour Defence Minister explicitly forbade his posting to Washington DC as military attachèe "to not send the wrong signals" (i.e. that there was a future for the FAA, at that point even the STOVL Invincible class was not being planned, the intention was to scrap all but rotary wing naval aviation). They sent a paymaster RN captain onto that DC posting, talk about adding insult to injury. IMO one of the Queens mistakes was not to upgrade Winkle's CB to a KCB in reaction, but the "honors" system in the UK was and is prone to mistakes and even abominations. The F4's turned out to provide such good service that they took over the BE Lightning's air defense role and some additional F4's were procured later to bridge the gap until the ADV version of the Tornado was operational, that might be where your recollection sets in. You have that exactly correct. I don't know much about the RADM stuff but it is interesting. The F-4's were a good match for their defensive role and later offensive role especially since we had some stationed in Europe and in Great Britain, if I remember correctly. Commonality always makes strategical and operational decisions much easier since it eases logistical issues.
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Post by JagdFlanker on Feb 10, 2019 3:54:44 GMT -6
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Post by MateDow on Feb 10, 2019 22:00:36 GMT -6
That may be so for the NATO period but what about pre-1950? The French were buying US carrier-based aircraft in 1940 prior to their surrender. These included SB2U Vindicator torpedo bombers and SBC Helldivers. The Vindicators were later given to the British, and the Helldivers slowly rotted on the Bearn.
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Post by jeb94 on Feb 11, 2019 2:12:36 GMT -6
I know we sometimes get hung up on carrier aircraft but there are shore based naval aircraft to consider such as the PBY. It wasn’t just a lend-lease aircraft. It was ordered directly by a number of allied nations.
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