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Post by garrisonchisholm on Feb 28, 2019 14:00:18 GMT -6
This would fall under the heading "not really important", but I am wondering if anyone has noticed how the game handles this.
Consider the pre-1900 French cruiser Joan of Arc.
She is listed as having 2 7.6" guns and 14 5.5" guns. Given the game doesn't talk metrics, what would be the most appropriate 'rounding' for these weapons? If you look at RTW's gun values, 14 6" guns would be significantly better than 14 5" guns. The same question could be asked for the main weapons, though by weight of broadside the difference is not that large.
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Post by dorn on Feb 28, 2019 14:15:51 GMT -6
This would fall under the heading "not really important", but I am wondering if anyone has noticed how the game handles this.
Consider the pre-1900 French cruiser Joan of Arc.
She is listed as having 2 7.6" guns and 14 5.5" guns. Given the game doesn't talk metrics, what would be the most appropriate 'rounding' for these weapons? If you look at RTW's gun values, 14 6" guns would be significantly better than 14 5" guns. The same question could be asked for the main weapons, though by weight of broadside the difference is not that large.
I think that any gun is take as complex of caliber and quality and this is transferred to RTW quality -1,0,1,-2. So british 13.5" MK V would probably be 13Q1 but as I understand it is not directly related to game systém of guns. However it could be interesting having more complex guns development as it will even more important in RTW2 than RTW. |
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Post by bcoopactual on Feb 28, 2019 14:33:26 GMT -6
dorn 's right you could combine caliber and quality to make them whatever you can justify in your head based on what you know of their historical performance. For what it's worth, SAI classifies the main guns as 7 inch Q0 and the secondaries as 5 inch Q1. 
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Feb 28, 2019 14:50:16 GMT -6
dorn 's right you could combine caliber and quality to make them whatever you can justify in your head based on what you know of their historical performance. For what it's worth, SAI classifies the main guns as 7 inch Q0 and the secondaries as 5 inch Q1. That seems to be the answer then. I actually have never played SAI paradoxically, the building & engineering in RTW is just too appealing. Thanks Bcoop, that's my answer. 
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Post by aeson on Feb 28, 2019 15:23:18 GMT -6
This would fall under the heading "not really important", but I am wondering if anyone has noticed how the game handles this.
Consider the pre-1900 French cruiser Joan of Arc.
She is listed as having 2 7.6" guns and 14 5.5" guns. Given the game doesn't talk metrics, what would be the most appropriate 'rounding' for these weapons? If you look at RTW's gun values, 14 6" guns would be significantly better than 14 5" guns. The same question could be asked for the main weapons, though by weight of broadside the difference is not that large.
I suspect that standard rounding was used to match historical ships' armaments to the nominal armaments of the templates based upon them.
If you're not concerned so much about how the templates were done but instead want to create a ship (or template) to model a historical vessel which uses guns which are not well matched to guns within the game, then:
If you want to match weight of broadside as best as you can, I would suggest rounding one battery up and the other battery down. The excess weight of broadside from one battery will offset the shortfall in weight of broadside from the other battery to some degree. For the particular example of Jeanne d'Arc, 2x7" + 14x6" and 2x8" + 14x5" are both within about 8% of the weight of broadside of 2x7.6" + 14x5.5", assuming shell weights are directly proportional to the cube of the diameter of the gun bore and that the broadside is the entire main battery plus half the secondary battery. 2x8" + 14x6" exceeds the target weight of broadside by about 24% while 2x7" + 14x5" is short by about 23% under the same assumptions. Be aware that this works less well when one battery uses significantly heavier guns than the other battery, especially if both contribute similar numbers of guns to the broadside.
If you want to match gun performance (range, armor penetration, explosive power) for each battery individually, then I would suggest that the caliber with the most similar shell weight is likely to be the best match. For 7.6" and 5.5" guns, this likely means 7" and 5" guns.
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