Carriers - number of aircraft

[dorn]

I have just first possibility to build CVL from scratch in 1/1922.

I was quite suprised how many aircraft I could put into hangar.

HMS Hermes (10900 tons) - 20 aircrafts -  in game 26 aircraft possible in 1921, for 20 aircrafts 9100 tons is needed

IJN Hosho (7500 tons) - 15 aircrafts - in game 22 aircraft possible in 1921, 15 aircraft could be done on 5500 tons displacement

So I tried what I can put in 16000 tons of CVL:

1. 34 airplanes, 34 knots, unarmoured, 6x5", 4x3" DP, 38 LAA

2. 34 airplanes, 30 knots, 2" belt, 1" deck, 1" armoured flight deck, 1" hangar sides, 6x5", 4x3", 38 LAA

3. 26 airplanes, 27 knots, 2.5" belt, 1" deck, 3" armoured flight deck, 2" hangar sides, TDS lvl 2, 6x4" DP, 4x3" DP, 38 LAA - quite heavily protected

Does not designs allow just too many aircrafts?

[wulfie]

To get more deck space/hanger space you really need a fleet cv put more tech into aircraft/cv tech and build a few cvl's then use them for in your AF or trade patrols to get the larger CV here was my end game fleet CV in 1955

[janxol]

I think the OP was trying to say carriers seem to have too many aircraft, not too little.

[williammiller]

Yes, I just re-read it and you are absolutely correct...I prob ought to take a short nap and make up some lost sleep from the past 36 hours or so :-)

Thanks!

[dorn]

May 18, 2019 15:19:36 GMT -6 wulfie said:

To get more deck space/hanger space you really need a fleet cv put more tech into aircraft/cv tech and build a few cvl's then use them for in your AF or trade patrols to get the larger CV here was my end game fleet CV in 1955

How you can get this picture by using 6 lines? I cannot see it.

[dorn]

May 18, 2019 15:28:29 GMT -6 janxol said:

I think the OP was trying to say carriers seem to have too many aircraft, not too little.

Exactly. It seems that CVL are just too OP.

As you can have 34 a/c carrier with reasonable protection or have armoured carrier about level of historical Illustrious class with 26 a/c. It is just almost 20 years earlier with just 10 planes less and 3 knots of speed at only 7000 tons less displacement.

I think this will needed to be look at and probably adjusted. However I cannot tell how as I am still at 1922 and it is needed whole timeframe.

[bubby]

I'm in 1937, and once the Fleet CV's get to be over 36,000 Tons they start to overwhelm the CVL's in terms of sortie efficiency.

Currently my fleet CV's are capable of 34knots with 108 Aircraft at 44,000 Tons. This is with a 3" armor belt and 2" of deck armor, and absolutely bristling with AA and DP guns.

[elouda]

Another place where CVs seem to outdo CVLs is in terms of operating efficiency - these are from my game which is in the early 30s, and my fleet CVs have only slightly more upkeep for almost twice the planes.