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Post by griffin01 on May 20, 2019 4:36:57 GMT -6
It does appear like things are much more expensive in RTW2, when compared to RTW1.
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Post by bigb4486 on May 20, 2019 7:00:15 GMT -6
Glad I'm not alone in this. Japan 1930 looking at my budget and fleet compared to the rest of the world, feeling very outgunned
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Post by kaiww on May 20, 2019 10:28:22 GMT -6
I have posted in sugeestion that a event in the twentys would be nice that increases the naval budget of Japan.
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Post by luna on May 21, 2019 0:13:09 GMT -6
So I played a game as Japanese and in 1937 I don't feel that outmatched by the enemy in terms of budget and fleet. It's not amazingly high, but the whole time I could fight any of the enemies and win wars. USA is probably the only one who is going to be really tough since they have a very large carrier fleet, but their battleships are most likely all obsolete since I've never been at war with them. Been at war with everyone except USA and Italy. That's historical resources by the way, almost forgot to mention that.
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Post by namuras on May 21, 2019 1:00:33 GMT -6
So I played a game as Japanese and in 1937 I don't feel that outmatched by the enemy in terms of budget and fleet. It's not amazingly high, but the whole time I could fight any of the enemies and win wars. USA is probably the only one who is going to be really tough since they have a very large carrier fleet, but their battleships are most likely all obsolete since I've never been at war with them. Been at war with everyone except USA and Italy. That's historical resources by the way, almost forgot to mention that. That US looks suspisciously like Germany in my current US playthrough.
Somehow they ended up with the highest budget and outbuild everyone on BB and BC before CVs arrived. I was actually amazed and somewhat intimidated, because their ships where decent.
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Post by southkraut on May 21, 2019 2:41:34 GMT -6
Is there any explanation ingame or otherwise of how exactly possessions affect budget?
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Post by namuras on May 21, 2019 3:14:02 GMT -6
Is there any explanation ingame or otherwise of how exactly possessions affect budget? Possesions add very little to the overall budget and what little they add is reduced with time.
Fire up a game and have a look at the UK: vast empire, but essentially the cost of ships to keep the station requirement far outstrips the income these generate. Can be seen in the almanac. On the other hand they help you when you want to be aggressive around the world, since supplying your battlewagons is easier with bases everywhere.
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luna
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Post by luna on May 21, 2019 6:26:04 GMT -6
The year is 1950 and the financial situation is actually pretty bad. But only to a degree, the degree to which it's spent on navy. Base resources of Japan are now higher than anyone except the USA. Even UK has less base resources. Japan grows strong. And now that all the battleships got scrapped (or sunk), finally parity on ship counts with almost everyone... Except in heavy cruisers, those seem popular.
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Post by kaiwi on May 23, 2019 10:18:35 GMT -6
Have done another playthrough, creating more wars and taking less possesion with peace treatys and more with Invasion and yes my naval budget is now considribale higher then befor. So Thx again to all of you that have taken the time to explain those machanics to me.
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Post by bobsenjr on May 23, 2019 10:39:01 GMT -6
I'm glad someone else has this issue. I was shocked when Russia showed up with a ton more BB's all of a sudden in the late 1910's.
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Post by kaiwi on May 23, 2019 21:12:19 GMT -6
In the beginning Japan is out of its league, but like i did say above its really about not taking to much possesion with peace treatys. (At least that made the different for me in my last run now and having as much early war as you can also helps.)
Besides that, anyone else noticed that Japan has the same budget with Historical ressources and without them or is that just me ?
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Post by kaiwi on May 23, 2019 21:15:24 GMT -6
Is there any explanation ingame or otherwise of how exactly possessions affect budget? If you check in the Almanch you can see your base budget and your possesion base budget, so you can check with that how much every Colonie adds to that.
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Post by pirateradar on May 23, 2019 22:04:19 GMT -6
Yeah, if you look at individual possessions it tells you how valuable they are. IIRC the most valuable "possession" in game is Sicily at 12 points. Most other possessions are 1-5 points and only a few are 10 points.
I think from what people (including myself) are seeing, historical resources are bugged at present.
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Post by alsadius on May 24, 2019 5:12:39 GMT -6
Yeah, if you look at individual possessions it tells you how valuable they are. IIRC the most valuable "possession" in game is Sicily at 12 points. Most other possessions are 1-5 points and only a few are 10 points. I think from what people (including myself) are seeing, historical resources are bugged at present. India is 40 points. But I think we can agree, that's a special case.
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Post by southkraut on May 24, 2019 6:26:34 GMT -6
In my last campaign as imperial Germany, I took every possession I could get my hands on. Ended up with a budget in between the UK and the US, neither of which I ever fought against.
Now I'm doing another game from the same starting position, but I resolved to take no possessions and instead double down on post-war base resource gain. Though I wonder: I'll probably still want to take the baltic states and finland, if only to deny Russia airbases in the baltic?
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