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Post by dorn on Jun 15, 2019 5:30:03 GMT -6
Right now any ship undergoing refit is "summoned" in home area.
It would be good if refit is small (3-4 months) that ship remains in same area after refit.
Eg. As UK or France you can fight against Japan, you have fleet in South Asia. Right now refit means 3-4 months plus additional 3-4 months (depends on availability of Suez) of journey, so total is 6-8 months just to do small refits adding AA guns.
More realismus will be added if ships undergoing larger refit (over 4 months) has time of refit increased by by distance of their actual position to home area. After refit is done they are deployed in home area as it is now.
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Jun 15, 2019 9:43:04 GMT -6
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Post by rob06waves2018 on Jun 15, 2019 9:43:04 GMT -6
Right now any ship undergoing refit is "summoned" in home area.
It would be good if refit is small (3-4 months) that ship remains in same area after refit.
Eg. As UK or France you can fight against Japan, you have fleet in South Asia. Right now refit means 3-4 months plus additional 3-4 months (depends on availability of Suez) of journey, so total is 6-8 months just to do small refits adding AA guns.
More realismus will be added if ships undergoing larger refit (over 4 months) has time of refit increased by by distance of their actual position to home area. After refit is done they are deployed in home area as it is now.
This is a good idea, and historically accurate. France, Britain, Russia and even Germany had some capability to refit in areas with significant colonial possessions (notably India and Canada). It would have to be limited to large possessions and/or smaller ships and be more expensive.
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Post by alsadius on Jun 15, 2019 9:47:53 GMT -6
Maybe say that any region with a base of capacity >=200 can do refits? Singapore or Pearl Harbor could refit a BB about as easily as Portsmouth or Brooklyn, but Fiji couldn't.
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Jun 15, 2019 16:36:15 GMT -6
Post by christian on Jun 15, 2019 16:36:15 GMT -6
Maybe say that any region with a base of capacity >=200 can do refits? Singapore or Pearl Harbor could refit a BB about as easily as Portsmouth or Brooklyn, but Fiji couldn't. that actually sounds quite reasonable +1
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Jun 20, 2019 15:11:24 GMT -6
Post by zabieru on Jun 20, 2019 15:11:24 GMT -6
Or possessions/regions where base capacity > (x*refit_months), with x in the range 50-100, if we wanted to get fancy? So that your 3-4 month fire control rebuilds are doable in colonial areas, but replacing machinery isn't.
Could also tie it to total cost, so 12-month rebuilds of small ships could be done overseas... But that gets less and less important: taking three months to rebuild and three to get back doubles the time out of service. A three-month trip on a 12-month rebuild isn't as big a deal.
The US is the prime example here, really: it's easy to argue that Canadian or Indian shipyards might not have been up to some particular piece of work even if they were generally up to jobs that size, or that the RN would have wanted the job done in their own backyard by the yards that laid the keel, or whatever... but there must have been US Navy ships which spent their entire careers on the West Coast and never saw the inside of an East Coast drydock at all, right? Especially if the US loses Panama/before the canal opens, that's kind of a big deal.
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Jun 20, 2019 18:07:55 GMT -6
Post by aeson on Jun 20, 2019 18:07:55 GMT -6
The US is the prime example here, really: it's easy to argue that Canadian or Indian shipyards might not have been up to some particular piece of work even if they were generally up to jobs that size, or that the RN would have wanted the job done in their own backyard by the yards that laid the keel, or whatever... but there must have been US Navy ships which spent their entire careers on the West Coast and never saw the inside of an East Coast drydock at all, right? Especially if the US loses Panama/before the canal opens, that's kind of a big deal. Within the game, ships that are in a home sea zone (i.e. a sea zone containing at least one 'home' possession) when they are taken in hand for a refit will be returned to that sea zone upon completion of the refit. The North American East Coast, the Caribbean, and the North American West Coast are US home sea zones; Northern Europe and the Mediterranean are French home sea zones; and Northern Europe and Northeast Asia are Russian/Soviet home sea zones.
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Jun 20, 2019 23:00:21 GMT -6
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Post by dorn on Jun 20, 2019 23:00:21 GMT -6
The US is the prime example here, really: it's easy to argue that Canadian or Indian shipyards might not have been up to some particular piece of work even if they were generally up to jobs that size, or that the RN would have wanted the job done in their own backyard by the yards that laid the keel, or whatever... but there must have been US Navy ships which spent their entire careers on the West Coast and never saw the inside of an East Coast drydock at all, right? Especially if the US loses Panama/before the canal opens, that's kind of a big deal. Within the game, ships that are in a home sea zone (i.e. a sea zone containing at least one 'home' possession) when they are taken in hand for a refit will be returned to that sea zone upon completion of the refit. The North American East Coast, the Caribbean, and the North American West Coast are US home sea zones; Northern Europe and the Mediterranean are French home sea zones; and Northern Europe and Northeast Asia are Russian/Soviet home sea zones. Exactly, so this change could be relatively easily implemented as some of coding has been already in game.
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