[RESOLVED] Game not Creating Scouting Force

[whyme943]

1900 France game, large size, Manual build of legacy fleet.


Fleet battles (and other battles, but I know that Fleet battles are supposed to have a scouting force) do not have a separate scouting force. The game occasionally spawns BC/CA groups out of vision of the flag ship, but I am unable to command them and they are not a separate force in the order of battle (Playing on RA mode). This issue may affect Carrier Force, too- I played an America game with similar settings and never got a carrier force, but I didn't get scouting force until 1937 and thought that might be what was causing the issue. I no longer have the America save game. Just be aware that whatever's affecting Scouting force may also affect Carrier force.

France Save game attached.

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Game2.zip (1.54 MB)

[williammiller]

Thanks for the report, will check.

[sloanjh]

I ran into this in my previous game.  I did NOT get a scouting force, but I DID get a carrier force.

[sloanjh]

Running into this in my current game (France, large, manual build, admiral) as well.  I've yet to see a scouting force in RTW2.  Attaching a save file from the start of the battle.

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[krawa]

Can confirm this is still an issue, pretty much the same happened to me as well. So far never seen a Scouting Force in RTW2

[spartyon]

I reported this issue in 1.00. Still not fixed in 1.07. Maybe 1.08.

[BathTubAdmiral]

... have seen plenty of Scout Div consisting of 1-3 CL (+ some DD as "support") as GE or IT between 1900 and 1925.

That was with versions 1.00-1.05b.

Haven't played FR, though.

[sloanjh]

Jul 24, 2019 2:20:32 GMT -6 BathTubAdmiral said:

... have seen plenty of Scout Div consisting of 1-3 CL (+ some DD as "support") as GE or IT between 1900 and 1925.

That was with versions 1.00-1.05b.

Haven't played FR, though.

Did you mean to say "division" or "force"?  The issue is not scouting divisions - those are fine.  The issue is a separate scouting force.  This (I think) is only relevant when playing Admiral's mode, where you only have control of the force flagship division.  Before the scouting force tech, you only have control of a single division in your entire fleet.  With scouting force, if you're in a battle with BB and BC (or possibly CA - I don't remember) then a second force will be created with its own flagship division that can be controlled by the player.  It is this force that is not appearing.  You can see this in the screen shot by the fact that the BC division has a triangular flag rather than square (and there's only one force in the OOB tree view).

In RTW2, a new "Carrier Force" tech was introduced that does the same thing for your carriers.  That seems to be working fine.

John

[sloanjh]

Any news on this one?  I just confirmed it's still present in 1.07.  Just upgraded, and in my first battle I got a fleet action: ~5 BB and 5 BC and no scouting force.  It's 1921 and the tech level is 8-ish, and I just double-checked that scouting force tech is there.

I have not seen a scouting force (playing as Admiral) in any version of RTW2 (starting with 1.00), nor have I seen anyone say that they have seen one.

Playing France, 1900 start, VL fleet, manual legacy build, Admiral, started at 1.05b and now at 1.07.  I also kludged the air experience in the save file: I changed all of the air experiences to be positive and capped the max value to 39.

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[mycophobia]

I remember having scouting force no problem back in something around 1.01 , 1.02 ish. Have not paid attention in more recent games however.

[BathTubAdmiral]

THE FOLLOWING WERE THE CHANGES/FIXES FOR THE 1.10 UPDATE:

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Fixed a bug that caused scout forces not to appear.

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Fix works: