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Post by liam556 on Sept 9, 2019 4:54:32 GMT -6
I guess thats the case. I am on 1.08.
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Post by tbr on Sept 9, 2019 12:58:24 GMT -6
I guess thats the case. I am on 1.08. I have now updated to 1.08 and the enabling bug is still there.
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Post by tbr on Sept 9, 2019 13:00:57 GMT -6
Are you getting the dalogue at all? Perhaps you need to have more aircraft so that you are abover the CVL threshold.
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Post by Enderminion on Sept 9, 2019 15:26:09 GMT -6
I'd personally like to see Wing Turrets on CV/CVL have better arcs of fire, namely across the Bow/Stern from Forward and Forward Mid (and aft of course) positions, Superimposed a la the Lexington/Saratoga's 8" Gun Battery
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Post by oldpop2000 on Sept 9, 2019 18:27:44 GMT -6
I'd personally like to see Wing Turrets on CV/CVL have better arcs of fire, namely across the Bow/Stern from Forward and Forward Mid (and aft of course) positions, Superimposed a la the Lexington/Saratoga's 8" Gun Battery Realistically, you refrain from firing your deck guns across the deck to prevent the gun blast from damaging the wooden or steel deck or causing harm to the deck crews. As to the Lexington class carrier 8 inch guns. Both ships had their 8 inch guns removed during refits at PH and turned over to the US Army Coast Artillery Corps and remounted as coastal artillery. They were never fired in anger while on the carriers.
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Post by liam556 on Sept 9, 2019 18:29:00 GMT -6
Okay, i just tried the trick again but instead of building a new ship from scratch i refitted a Heavy Cruiser and it worked, however the instructions on the first page talk about choosing the armour and torpedo defence system so i assume this also must work on new ship designs but that doesn't work for me.
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Post by liam556 on Sept 9, 2019 18:32:47 GMT -6
OK, i just tried the trick again but instead i auto-designed a BB and modified the design to be a battle-carrier and it worked.
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Post by Enderminion on Sept 9, 2019 18:49:33 GMT -6
I'd personally like to see Wing Turrets on CV/CVL have better arcs of fire, namely across the Bow/Stern from Forward and Forward Mid (and aft of course) positions, Superimposed a la the Lexington/Saratoga's 8" Gun Battery Realistically, you refrain from firing your deck guns across the deck to prevent the gun blast from damaging the wooden or steel deck or causing harm to the deck crews. As to the Lexington class carrier 8 inch guns. Both ships had their 8 inch guns removed during refits at PH and turned over to the US Army Coast Artillery Corps and remounted as coastal artillery. They were never fired in anger while on the carriers. While true, they [wing turrets] could have improved Arc of Fire to port/starboard on CV/CVL, and hopefully on a CV fire nearly dead forwards/astern. Secondly Cross Deck Fire is a design option the player could pick allowing for, get this, Cross Deck fire. Superimposed Wing Turrets should be another design option
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Post by oldpop2000 on Sept 9, 2019 20:41:23 GMT -6
Realistically, you refrain from firing your deck guns across the deck to prevent the gun blast from damaging the wooden or steel deck or causing harm to the deck crews. As to the Lexington class carrier 8 inch guns. Both ships had their 8 inch guns removed during refits at PH and turned over to the US Army Coast Artillery Corps and remounted as coastal artillery. They were never fired in anger while on the carriers. While true, they [wing turrets] could have improved Arc of Fire to port/starboard on CV/CVL, and hopefully on a CV fire nearly dead forwards/astern. Secondly Cross Deck Fire is a design option the player could pick allowing for, get this, Cross Deck fire. Superimposed Wing Turrets should be another design option Carriers are very, very vulnerable weapons. I personally would never arm them with anything greater than a dual purpose 5 inch gun or less. A carriers job is to fire a pulse of power at the enemy, not get into surface actions. Just my thoughts.
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Post by dorn on Sept 9, 2019 23:03:15 GMT -6
One of the Royal Navy carriers fired at anger. It was on one of disabled Italian cruisers at night.
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Post by oldpop2000 on Sept 9, 2019 23:12:09 GMT -6
One of the Royal Navy carriers fired at anger. It was on one of disabled Italian cruisers at night. You can find exceptions to almost anything in war, but I bet the Captain would have preferred not to fire and run away.
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Post by jishmael on Sept 9, 2019 23:57:40 GMT -6
Realistically, you refrain from firing your deck guns across the deck to prevent the gun blast from damaging the wooden or steel deck or causing harm to the deck crews. As to the Lexington class carrier 8 inch guns. Both ships had their 8 inch guns removed during refits at PH and turned over to the US Army Coast Artillery Corps and remounted as coastal artillery. They were never fired in anger while on the carriers. While true, they [wing turrets] could have improved Arc of Fire to port/starboard on CV/CVL, and hopefully on a CV fire nearly dead forwards/astern. Secondly Cross Deck Fire is a design option the player could pick allowing for, get this, Cross Deck fire. Superimposed Wing Turrets should be another design option Is there any historical example of superimposed wing turrets? I'm not aware of one. Also at least with larger calibres I suspect it won't physically be feasible. The extended barbette and extra weight should be a major issue when it comes to stability and hull strain. Or at least cause a major and impractical displacement increase. With smaller calibres let alone dp guns on a cv (should normally be used for AA) I don't see any benefit gained for the extra weight whatsoever as AA has different angles anyway. The only thing a superimposed wing turret would possibly help is a battle carrier (CVB?) and maybe one or two wonky specialized chase cruisers with 6 forward turrets, but I really wonder how you're going to counterbalance that gigantic magazine. (+I can already see the amazing "6 turrets disabled by one shell what is this game" threads from those kinda ships)
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Post by oldpop2000 on Sept 10, 2019 0:09:08 GMT -6
While true, they [wing turrets] could have improved Arc of Fire to port/starboard on CV/CVL, and hopefully on a CV fire nearly dead forwards/astern. Secondly Cross Deck Fire is a design option the player could pick allowing for, get this, Cross Deck fire. Superimposed Wing Turrets should be another design option Is there any historical example of superimposed wing turrets? I'm not aware of one. Also at least with larger calibres I suspect it won't physically be feasible. The extended barbette and extra weight should be a major issue when it comes to stability and hull strain. Or at least cause a major and impractical displacement increase. With smaller calibres let alone dp guns on a cv (should normally be used for AA) I don't see any benefit gained for the extra weight whatsoever as AA has different angles anyway. The only thing a superimposed wing turret would possibly help is a battle carrier (CVB?) and maybe one or two wonky specialized chase cruisers with 6 forward turrets, but I really wonder how you're going to counterbalance that gigantic magazine. (+I can already see the amazing "6 turrets disabled by one shell what is this game" threads from those kinda ships) The 8-inch turrets on the Lexington class carriers were superfiring. www.thoughtco.com/uss-saratoga-cv-3-2361553
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Post by Enderminion on Sept 10, 2019 3:25:32 GMT -6
Is there any historical example of superimposed wing turrets? I'm not aware of one. Also at least with larger calibres I suspect it won't physically be feasible. The extended barbette and extra weight should be a major issue when it comes to stability and hull strain. Or at least cause a major and impractical displacement increase. With smaller calibres let alone dp guns on a cv (should normally be used for AA) I don't see any benefit gained for the extra weight whatsoever as AA has different angles anyway. The only thing a superimposed wing turret would possibly help is a battle carrier (CVB?) and maybe one or two wonky specialized chase cruisers with 6 forward turrets, but I really wonder how you're going to counterbalance that gigantic magazine. (+I can already see the amazing "6 turrets disabled by one shell what is this game" threads from those kinda ships) the 8" Gun turrets on Lexington, 5" Gun turrets on the Essex class, and at least the Tennessee class Standard Battleship had that on it's Secondary Battery The game requires 8" Guns on early carriers
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Post by jishmael on Sept 10, 2019 5:22:31 GMT -6
Thanks for the historical examples, I was not aware of those ships
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