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Post by sittingduck on Jan 17, 2020 20:07:55 GMT -6
Just saw the selection option for Chin China. Hadn't noticed an announcement. Thanks.
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Post by Fredrik W on Jan 18, 2020 1:03:52 GMT -6
Yes, it was added as a kind of bonus. Be aware that playing Chin China can be quite a challenge. It is definitely difficult mode.
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Post by euchrejack on Jan 18, 2020 7:22:09 GMT -6
Awesome! I love the idea of trying to turn Chin China into a naval power!
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Post by cteb on Jan 18, 2020 15:40:10 GMT -6
I love the addition but it seems a little strange that China begins with quality 0 6 inch guns when big naval powers begin with -1.
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Post by noshurviverse on Jan 18, 2020 16:46:20 GMT -6
I've been playing a varied, 60% tech game with slow aircraft development as China. I experienced a series of good fortunes, as Great Britain proposed a treaty, then sold me 14"Q-1 guns in 1903. Of course, this was less useful than I hoped, since I couldn't actually build any hull large enough to use them. A war with Russia broke out and with Great Britain keeping the Russians in Europe I was able to snatch up their NE Asian territories in a peace deal.
Soon afterwards, the US joined our alliance and a war with France broke out.
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Post by aeson on Jan 18, 2020 17:01:45 GMT -6
I love the addition but it seems a little strange that China begins with quality 0 6 inch guns when big naval powers begin with -1. USA, Germany, France, Russia, and Austria-Hungary all start with 6" Q0 guns. |
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 19, 2020 14:05:20 GMT -6
Yes, it was added as a kind of bonus. Be aware that playing Chin China can be quite a challenge. It is definitely difficult mode. Fredrik, Chin China caught me by surprise (see how observant I am?), but makes me wonder- could we have a Japan-play option then where Chin China replaces Italy? China (or Holland, not yet an option) would be so much better as Japan opponents than Italy. |
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Post by captainloggy on Jan 20, 2020 3:44:02 GMT -6
There is a custom nation mod with that option around, should be on the mod list.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 20, 2020 10:02:23 GMT -6
There is a custom nation mod with that option around, should be on the mod list. True, but it feels like it would be a nice thing to offer, and desirable, in the stock game. |
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Post by tortugapower on Jan 20, 2020 13:23:34 GMT -6
Yes, it was added as a kind of bonus. Be aware that playing Chin China can be quite a challenge. It is definitely difficult mode. Fredrik, Chin China caught me by surprise (see how observant I am?), but makes me wonder- could we have a Japan-play option then where Chin China replaces Italy? China (or Holland, not yet an option) would be so much better as Japan opponents than Italy. (Boy, the quote system for this forum host ProBoards is bad. I keep getting stuck writing inside the darn quote!) My initial reaction was "yeah this could replace the default vs. Italy", but to appease all it would be nice to have as an alternative. |
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 20, 2020 13:42:17 GMT -6
Though, the more I read about Qing China the more they would seem to be hosed from the start. You'd have to assume swift and drastic reforms right after the Boxer Uprising, and successful ones. ...and then at least two visionaries (Imperial and Naval) that didn't seem to exist... Did Fredrik say it would be hard?  |
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Post by mycophobia on Jan 20, 2020 17:04:30 GMT -6
Though, the more I read about Qing China the more they would seem to be hosed from the start. You'd have to assume swift and drastic reforms right after the Boxer Uprising, and successful ones. ...and then at least two visionaries (Imperial and Naval) that didn't seem to exist... Did Fredrik say it would be hard? An 1890 start will probably treat them a bit more nicely  But in anycase this is probably the hardest option in game so far (even compared to Qing mods in rtw1). I am tempted to do an AAR on it now once missiles are in.... |
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Jan 20, 2020 17:09:53 GMT -6
Yeah, well I was going to do an AAR in like Alpha 15 but the rules/features keep evolving so fluidly that my OCD couldn't tolerate it, so I won't be picking up the feathered quill for quite a while yet I'd wager. :]
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Post by mycophobia on Jan 20, 2020 17:12:51 GMT -6
Yeah, well I was going to do an AAR in like Alpha 15 but the rules/features keep evolving so fluidly that my OCD couldn't tolerate it, so I won't be picking up the feathered quill for quite a while yet I'd wager. :] Definitely look forward to what you can do, but yeah It is quite a miracle that I kept the Canadian AAR going from since 1.06 and almost nothing broke at all. Heres hoping things stay that way  1.15 definitely adds a lot of very good and honestly unexpected features, I cant wait to see what the next patch will bring now. |
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Post by euchrejack on Jan 21, 2020 16:39:09 GMT -6
Though, the more I read about Qing China the more they would seem to be hosed from the start. You'd have to assume swift and drastic reforms right after the Boxer Uprising, and successful ones. ...and then at least two visionaries (Imperial and Naval) that didn't seem to exist... Did Fredrik say it would be hard? An 1890 start will probably treat them a bit more nicely But in anycase this is probably the hardest option in game so far (even compared to Qing mods in rtw1). I am tempted to do an AAR on it now once missiles are in.... I've had luck with my Chin China game, but I was fiddling around with the modded China option before, and I define luck as "My navy is tied for 3rd, and I'm allied with a non-beligerent Germany which is also tied for 3rd". Used the German alliance to beat the French who were alone (barely), and its continued. If I can restore the old territory of China, I'll be quite pleased with myself. ...it is harder than even the modded China, definitely a Paper Tiger strategy is needed.
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