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Post by dragoon on Nov 13, 2013 9:12:52 GMT -6
Could i ask you guys who are well versed on this era which books you rate best or would recommend..i know there was a thread on the old forums but that is lost forever.
Thanks in advance..
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Post by williammiller on Nov 13, 2013 10:06:55 GMT -6
Dragoon,
An excellent overview of the naval conflict portion of the First World War is 'A Naval History of World War I' by Paul G. Halpern. ISBN10# is 1857284984, ISBN13# is 978-1857284980. It may be hard to find as I believe it is now out of print, but is very much worth the search.
If you are looking for books on specific theatres/actions in WWI let us know and I can make other suggestions; we might even be able to put them on our online store for you at a good price.
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Post by randomizer on Nov 13, 2013 10:47:25 GMT -6
The Rules of the Game: Jutland and British Naval Command by Andrew Gordon ISBN 1-55750-718-X Should be available at better libraries. An absolute must read for anybody interested in the Steam and Iron era or the Royal Navy. The Great War at Sea 1914-1918 by Richard Hough ISBN 0-19-285181-0 Nowhere near as detailed as Halpern and rather Anglo-centric it is still very readable worthy of a look. Anglo-Dutch historian Dan Van der Vat has produced some well-written subject specific books on the era: The Ship that Changed the World - about the Goeben episode in August 1914; The Grand Scuttle: The Sinking of the German Fleet in Scapa Flow in 1919; and The Last Corsair: The cruise of the raider Emden The Rise and Fall of British Naval Mastery by Paul Kennedy goes some way towards explaining the Royal Navy although its scope goes far outside the SAI era. Dreadnought: Britain, Germany and the coming of the Great War by Robert K. Massie ISBN 0-394-52833-6 Castles of Steel: Britain, Germany and the winning of the Great War at Sea by Robert K. Massie ISBN 0-345-40878-0 Critically acclaimed (mostly by newspaper critics and people with little previous subject knowledge) these are readable in the narrative style but are overall shallow and incomplete. On line resources include the accounts of Scheer and Jellicoe but these should be used with some caution. Sheer can be found here: Germany's High Sea Fleet in the World WarAnother online resource is the Superior Force trilogy that focuses on British naval policy in the Med up to and including the Dardanelles campaign: Superior Force Trilogy
Google searching key words like Dreadnought or Jutland will produce a vast number of sites of variable quality, from the excellent to the awful. The range of references is vast so good luck.
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Post by oldpop2000 on Nov 13, 2013 11:02:47 GMT -6
I would add the following: The Grand Fleet by Admiral Sir John Jellicoe
The Crisis of the Naval War by Admiral Sir John Jellicoe With the Battle Cruisers by Filson Young
What happened at Jutland; the tactics of the battle by C. C. Gill
The Battle of Jutland: The Sowing and the Reaping by Cmdr. Carlyon Bellairs
Kiel and Jutland by Georg Oskar Immanuel Von Hase
Germany's High Sea fleet in the World War by Reinhardt Scheer
The British Fleet in the Great War by Sir Archibald Hurd
These books should all be available for free at the following location - Internet Archive text and ebook section
archive.org/details/texts
While it appears that they emphasize Jutland, you will find that they do provide a narrative of how both sides got to Jutland. Dreadnought Gunnery and the Battle of Jutland by John Brooks does go into great detail about gunnery in the war, but does cost money. It can be found on many Ebooks sites.
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Post by tharr on Nov 14, 2013 1:19:46 GMT -6
And I would add to the above excellent recommendations,
Jutland-The German Perspective by VE Tarrant
First Victory 1914 HMAS Sydney's Hunt for the Emden by Mike Carlton
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Post by tharr on Nov 14, 2013 1:31:11 GMT -6
Oh and I forgot. A must have reference should be an edition of Jane's Fighting Ships of WW I. I was lucky to find a $20 copy in very good condition at a book fair, good luck !
Cheers
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Post by dragoon on Nov 14, 2013 2:01:55 GMT -6
Cheers guys, i will aim to get through all these..reading Castles of Steel at the moment..does seem an easy read but will certainly look elsewhere to broaden my knowledge.
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Post by exmachina on Nov 14, 2013 22:30:17 GMT -6
The Rules of the Game: Jutland and British Naval Command by Andrew Gordon ISBN 1-55750-718-X Should be available at better libraries. An absolute must read for anybody interested in the Steam and Iron era or the Royal Navy. Easily the the most interesting, engaging and informative book on turn-of-the-century naval history I have ever encountered
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Post by oldpop2000 on Nov 15, 2013 8:55:48 GMT -6
If you are looking for books on the design and development of warships, the books by the late D.K. Brown such as "Warrior to dreadnought; Warship Design and Development 1860-1905 or "The Grand Fleet" are excellent sources as are the books by Norman Friedman. Here is a link to a good site that specializes in WW1; The War at Sea. www.gwpda.org/naval/n0000000.htm and this one; www.dreadnoughtproject.org/tfs/index.php/Main_Page
Conroy's books on warships are usually the best as are Brassey's Naval Annuals some of which can be found on Google Books.
Lastly, if you are really enthusiastic about understanding warship designs, design your own with Springsharp. www.springsharp.com/
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Post by vonfriedman on Nov 27, 2013 5:35:18 GMT -6
On www.archive.org there is the Monograph 1 of the Naval War College, 1920, on the Battle of Jutland, which is based on excerpts from several authors, such as von Hase, Pollen, Jellicoe and Scheer. Reginald Bacon wrote not only "The Jutland scandal", which is biased because he was a staunch Jellicoe supporter, but he also wrote the interesting "The Dover patrol", which may be found also on www.archive.orgThere I found the "Tenedos Times 1914", a sort of humour magazine published by the staff of the British naval light forces in the Adriatic. A cartoon showing von Spee and Sturdee in a wargame situation, provides some suggestions about the conduct of simulations in those days. Attachment Deleted
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Post by vonfriedman on Dec 6, 2013 3:25:42 GMT -6
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Post by Rasputitsa on Dec 6, 2013 10:51:40 GMT -6
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Post by julianbarker on Dec 6, 2013 15:37:11 GMT -6
Two very good books for those who want to really understand what happened at Jutland
Jutland: An Analysis of the Fighting by John Campbell which documents virtually every heavy hit in the battle and does an analysis of the shooting and damage.
Battle of Jutland by Holloway H Frost gives probably the most detailed account of the ship movements and signals with an excellent series of detailed diagrams for the battle. Unlike most diagrams these show the positions of light forces throughout the approach, in action, and afterwards.
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Post by oldpop2000 on Dec 6, 2013 22:26:30 GMT -6
........ Battle of Jutland by Holloway H Frost gives probably the most detailed account of the ship movements and signals with an excellent series of detailed diagrams for the battle. Unlike most diagrams these show the positions of light forces throughout the approach, in action, and afterwards. ia600508.us.archive.org/18/items/diagrammaticstud00fros/diagrammaticstud00fros_bw.pdf
Here is the
There is also an online HTML version besides the downloadable PDF which can be sent to Kindles.
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Post by julianbarker on Dec 7, 2013 4:46:57 GMT -6
That is his diagrammatic study which preceded the book. There are something like 60 diagrams in the book. They are clearly based on these drawings, but are more professionally presented wit ha detailed accompanying text.
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