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Post by garrisonchisholm on Apr 27, 2018 15:55:35 GMT -6
The Dutch turrets used Obsurdium as armor, which is so dense it warps space-time so that there are veritable funnels leading to each turret.
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Post by gornik on Apr 27, 2018 16:52:35 GMT -6
The Dutch turrets used Obsurdium as armor, which is so dense it warps space-time so that there are veritable funnels leading to each turret. Ahh, so that was pure physics, not magic! Stupid me
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Post by wknehring on Apr 28, 2018 1:28:33 GMT -6
"There seems to be something wrong with our bloody turrets today"
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Post by director on Apr 29, 2018 14:35:07 GMT -6
It's that orange paint job - makes it easy to spot hits. LOL
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Post by Spaghet Shipwright on May 1, 2018 14:21:11 GMT -6
Sometimes I feel that aiming posts at enemy warships are occupied with snipers. 4 only hits in 22 minutes - all in turrets!!! Fortunately, both Russians got enough damage to withdraw in same time... On the bright side, your boys received some great hands-on experience with proper magazine safety procedures.
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Post by rimbecano on May 1, 2018 21:39:41 GMT -6
The problem is, pretty much every turret knockout I've ever heard of on a capital ship involved the loss of all, or nearly all, of the turret crew. Lion, Seydlitz twice, Mississippi, Iowa (the two US incidents being non-combat casualties), and, of course, every one of the British battlecruisers sunk by magazine explosions.
I suppose a destroyed turret could include cases where the rotating machinery was wrecked beyond at-sea repair by distortion of the armor, but there was no significant damage to the interior of the turret, but I'm not sure I've heard of any such instances. The one case of armor distortion I know of (Seydlitz at Dogger Bank) involved the shell being rejected, but flash entered the turret through armor that had been pushed in, causing an ammunition fire that was allowed to spread to the other turret in the superfiring pair by crew from the hit turret trying to escape, resulting in the loss of both turrets and their crews.
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Post by Zapitalist on May 1, 2018 23:52:04 GMT -6
2 rimbecano
Well, I know an example when guns in the turret were knocked out in case of their recoil and elevation systems were badly damaged. Dunkerque at Mers el-Kebir got 15'' AP to the B turret top. Cemented armor plate was pushed in and gave a bunch of splinters. But horizontal rotating machinery wasn't damaged as well as guns in the left half-turret behind the armor bulkhead so the turret was kept fire. However the crew of the right half-turret was lost, of course - seamen aren't literally 'men-of-steel' regardless of what newspapers says...
Something more related. While I was playing as Spain a war against France was occurred in 1916. Things were going not bad, French fleet had some major losses but victory still was out of sight. Once upon a half-year of war a recieved a message: 'Alejandro I is in the yard with engine problems'. 'Looks like a bug' I said because old B Alejandro I was disposed as a museum in 1910 just after the Italian war. But then I really discovered this steam iron in my ship list! And do you know what? Her crew was Elite just like after victorious battles in 1910! Alejandro I immediately became a flaghip of the Mediterrian force consisted of several old protected cruisers and 600-ton DDs. In five months this museum collection brought me both Algeria and Tunisia.
A pretty nice idea to keep the ship mothballed and her crew falled into deep hybernation somewhere in fleet arsenals.
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Post by aeson on May 2, 2018 0:12:16 GMT -6
Did you mobilize the fleet when the war started? Museum ships get reactivated when you do that.
Also, I suspect that Elite crew status was just something that the ship's crew attained between reactivation and the time you noticed the ship's presence.
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Post by Zapitalist on May 2, 2018 12:39:23 GMT -6
Did you mobilize the fleet when the war started? Museum ships get reactivated when you do that. Also, I suspect that Elite crew status was just something that the ship's crew attained between reactivation and the time you noticed the ship's presence. I'm not sure what do you mean but I definitely did nothing 'special'. The only thing was that I turned all my reserve ships into AF service just in 2 or 3 months before the war begins. I exactly find this story with museum ironclad quite realistic, Iowa-class BBs proves it! One more reason to adore RTW.
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Post by gornik on May 2, 2018 14:23:18 GMT -6
Did you mobilize the fleet when the war started? Museum ships get reactivated when you do that. Also, I suspect that Elite crew status was just something that the ship's crew attained between reactivation and the time you noticed the ship's presence. I'm not sure what do you mean but I definitely did nothing 'special'. The only thing was that I turned all my reserve ships into AF service just in 2 or 3 months before the war begins. I exactly find this story with museum ironclad quite realistic, Iowa-class BBs proves it! One more reason to adore RTW. It may be that event about another Power mobilising their fleet, with option to mobilise yours. Or you misclick mobilisation button. But I'm sure that to become "elite" crew should not only be "active" for several months, but also take part in some engagements. Maybe they fool base administration, secretly leaving port at midnight to form "supporting force" in battle...
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Post by dorn on May 2, 2018 23:21:20 GMT -6
Did you mobilize the fleet when the war started? Museum ships get reactivated when you do that. Also, I suspect that Elite crew status was just something that the ship's crew attained between reactivation and the time you noticed the ship's presence. When war ended how do you change to museum ship again not using editing save?
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Post by aeson on May 2, 2018 23:26:53 GMT -6
Did you mobilize the fleet when the war started? Museum ships get reactivated when you do that. Also, I suspect that Elite crew status was just something that the ship's crew attained between reactivation and the time you noticed the ship's presence. When war ended how do you change to museum ship again not using editing save? Luck. Or you mothball the ship, pretend that it's a museum ship, and don't worry about it.
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Post by bcoopactual on May 3, 2018 18:14:59 GMT -6
May 1924, I'm 21 months into a war with Great Britain and doing pretty well. I'm up 98,4029 to 21,708 in victory points when I get the event that the Soviets have stolen technology from me in Turrets and Gun Mountings. Since the conservative press got a hold of the news they are ranting about what am I going to do about it. I don't actually care because I do the same thing all of the time but normally I'll protest through State Department channels to prevent the prestige loss. However, The Soviets are sitting at 11 tension (12 is the line) and I really don't want to add them to a war where I've built up such a nice lead and have the VP's (and perhaps unrest in the UK) reset. So I shrug it off and put up with the conservative talking heads taking shots at me, the guy who's winning a war against the largest navy on earth, for not being aggressive enough and I take the prestige hit.
Very next event. Despite working under prize rules, one of my submarines sinks a neutral passenger liner with heavy loss of life. Son of a...
Yep, tensions with France, the Soviets, Japan and Italy all go up by one. The Soviets sit at 12 for one turn in June but in July sure enough they declare war and the VP's all reset. Sometimes you just can't escape destiny it seems..., LOL.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on May 3, 2018 19:00:40 GMT -6
This will put the test to your deployment strategy. Imagine a Soviet fleet off Manila!
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Post by bcoopactual on May 3, 2018 19:32:48 GMT -6
garrisonchisholm , Huh, I hadn't really thought about that. The Brits haven't done anything in Southeast Asia. Right now my intelligence service (still the game where that's you by the way) is telling me that they only have 1 CL and 1 DD in Southeast Asia. I have my 2 oldest 11 inch gun armed BCs, 4 CLs, 8 DDs and 11 MSs in Southeast Asia. I hadn't considered the Soviets could use British bases until you just mentioned it. That's why I keep you around, LOL. Fortunately, Intelligence is also telling me that the Soviets have no ships in Northeast Asia or Southeast Asia for that matter. That seems kind of strange but tonnage requirements go out the window as far as I know during war time. The Soviets have never really forgiven me for making Finland's independence (in return for basing rights for 99 years) a condition of their surrender after the Imperial Government collapsed in 1905.
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