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Post by matlef on Mar 4, 2018 21:12:01 GMT -6
Since the plauges that have bothered the GNA is over we will contribute to these competitions.
Trying to build to the US/UK level of capital ships is not realistic but i think China could use a fairly strong BC that can go up against foreign ships. Even if submarines might be the most efficient way it's rather dull and not very interactive as you say, still some more would probably be good. China already have BC's building that can deal with enemy cruisers but either a BC or a fast BB to deal with enemy capital ships is what the GNA recommends.
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Post by aeson on Mar 4, 2018 22:29:46 GMT -6
Since the plauges that have bothered the GNA is over we will contribute to these competitions. Good to hear that the plagues have passed. Well, if you're planning to submit a battlecruiser or battleship for the open proposal, you'll be pleased to hear that China finally developed a decent late-game heavy gun sometime in the past year or so - we developed 15"/Q0 in 1933 and almost immediately improved them to Q1.
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Post by dorn on Mar 5, 2018 1:33:13 GMT -6
I will look at the situation later however I suggest to transfer ships to active duty at time they are commissioned and not to wait for working up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 15:16:52 GMT -6
I'm confident in the fleet's (and my) ability to win, or at least not lose, on the tactical level, barring bad luck or very unequal forces. It's the strategic situation that worries me, because I can't really absorb losses whereas the British can, especially with the USA continuing to meet my expectations for computer-controlled allies. Oops I was thinking tactical "total" victories like player side with zero capital ship losses. Ok, subs, big time, is my suggestion... based on current budget 100+ subs is possible if mix in some SSCs. Anyway any capital ships committed now would be little to no value to current war since they take so long to build. And russia is inching to the red. So my take is to spike GB's unrest to make them more willing to negotiate.
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Post by dorn on Mar 13, 2018 14:18:01 GMT -6
Hamson proposes some suggestion for Chinese Navy. 1. Mass your capital ship in one are - Northeast Asia.
Your capital ships are better than British. You can fight them, especially armor of Tung Hai, Hai An and Lai Yuan class are superior and give you huge advantage. 2. Deter British with light shipsBritish have only 5 CLs in the area and no CA at all. Use that as your advantage. Send several CL and CA to Southeast Asia as they are useless against capital ships in Northeast Asia. All CA could be used that an in any case of chance cancel the blockade in Northeast Asia they can be easily send there. From CL I think Chi An class is perfect for that role as they can probably fight 2 enemy CLs. One of them could raid Southeast Asia with hope to force British cruisers to counter her. 3. Chen Pien cruiserShe is practically useless, inferior in guns, speed. I will transfer her to reserve or use her as raider. 4. Construction priorities
a) Chih Yuan battle-cruiser
I cannot see much value of this ships as they cannot face British battlecruisers in one to one combat so I suggest to cancel Chih Yang. b) Light cruisersThere is no need for CLs as British has not enough advantage. c) Large cruisers
Our Yang Wei should be superior Sutlej class due to armor so we have no need more. And Chih Yuan could help with that if needed. d) Capital shipsThat is something we need however the construction time is so huge that there is no reason to start construction any capital ships. e) DestroyersWe need modern destroyers. As we have good quality of cruisers against enemy DDs we should focus our destroyers to torpedo tubes and night attacks. So I suggest to build mass number of destroyers as construction time of submarine is so long to have effect on war.5. Suggestion to DD1935 proposal:
Speed: 34 knots Guns: 3x2x5 high quality Torpedo tubes: 3x4 DD1935_Hamson.40d (5.02 KB)
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Post by aeson on Mar 13, 2018 15:17:29 GMT -6
Short-range ships cannot be used as raiders.
Also, why reserves? I don't think RF ships count for blockade or invasion purposes and can't say that I can recall seeing the few I've had in the past show up for fights, and on top of that Chen Pien costs very little to operate, so putting it into the reserves wouldn't save me anything worth worrying about while effectively removing the ship from service. I can't say that I see the logic of doing so, other than that it might remove a minor liability from my fleet, but if I'm out to remove it as a liability then I feel like I might as well scrap it.
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Post by dorn on Mar 13, 2018 16:05:51 GMT -6
Short-range ships cannot be used as raiders. Also, why reserves? I don't think RF ships count for blockade or invasion purposes and can't say that I can recall seeing the few I've had in the past show up for fights, and on top of that Chen Pien costs very little to operate, so putting it into the reserves wouldn't save me anything worth worrying about while effectively removing the ship from service. I can't say that I see the logic of doing so, other than that it might remove a minor liability from my fleet, but if I'm out to remove it as a liability then I feel like I might as well scrap it. Yes, I think you should scrap her. My mistake. She is the risk to be sink. And defend her could even risk your other ships (similar to Italian cruisers in Mapatan).
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Post by matlef on Mar 18, 2018 9:18:10 GMT -6
GNA DD-1 1935 GNA BB-1 1935 GNA BC-1 1935 The GNA is proud to offer three designs for the Imperial Navy. A fast and very torpedo heavy destroyer with a respectable main armament. As well as two designs for fast battleships, a budget design at 35 500 ton or the larger design at 48 000 ton. We would reccomend the larger variant but we included the cheaper option in case the Imperial Navy would prefer it. We believe that the navy is lacking in fast capital ships able to stand up to a foreign line of battle and that this is a shortcoming that needs to be fixed if the Navy is to be able to defend China from foreign aggresion and prevent a blockade of our trade.
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Post by matlef on Mar 18, 2018 9:19:18 GMT -6
And here comes the files.
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Post by aeson on Mar 18, 2018 11:04:16 GMT -6
Due to computer issues, this is going to be delayed for a couple days, but I should be able to post an update Wednesday or Thursday. My apologies for the delay.
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Post by dorn on Mar 18, 2018 22:57:42 GMT -6
I have found that the picture of DD design I propose does not correspond with the file of the ship. As it was reopened it does not show improved director correctly. Right picture you can find bellow, the file for the ship was correct.
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Post by matlef on Mar 19, 2018 0:19:14 GMT -6
Due to computer issues, this is going to be delayed for a couple days, but I should be able to post an update Wednesday or Thursday. My apologies for the delay. Would it be alright if i added another design in the next 24 hours of a surplus coastal DD idea i had? This would be for any misc ship ideas and not directly in the main DD competition.
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Post by aeson on Mar 19, 2018 12:13:44 GMT -6
Due to computer issues, this is going to be delayed for a couple days, but I should be able to post an update Wednesday or Thursday. My apologies for the delay. Would it be alright if i added another design in the next 24 hours of a surplus coastal DD idea i had? This would be for any misc ship ideas and not directly in the main DD competition. Go ahead. I won't be doing anything with this until some time tomorrow anyways.
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Post by matlef on Mar 19, 2018 14:14:42 GMT -6
GNA Coastal Destroyer design/Wartime Emergency Destroyer
The GNA is proud to supply the Imperial Navy with a design for a Wartime emergency destroyer, that is both cheap and quick to build. While technically fulfilling the capability requirements for the DD competition we feel it's more suited to a suplementary role bolstering the destroyer fleet during the war and useful in numbers in the future, with a possibility of usefulness as a subchaser and patrol ship in future conflicts. With the lack of any useful destroyers except a few rebuilt ships from 1917 a cheap and quick option would allow the navy to quickly bolster its forces and supplement the larger destroyers in low intensity areas.
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Post by aeson on Mar 20, 2018 16:39:49 GMT -6
Design Competition Results:
Congratulations to Clark Family Shipbuilding, whose DD1935 proposal has been accepted for service as the 12-ship Lei Chien class. Honorable mention to the Hampson DD1935 proposal. As far as the open proposal goes, I have elected to lay down six ships to the GNA Coastal DD 1935, to enter service as the T-10 class, and one battleship to the GNA BB-1 1935 proposal, to enter service as Cheng Kung. I was very, very tempted to order Cheng Kung to the CFS battleship proposal or maybe to the GNA battlecruiser proposal instead of to the GNA battleship proposal, but ultimately I decided that I'd rather have the third Chih Yuan and a less expensive battleship than the more expensive CFS battleship or the GNA battlecruiser.
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