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Post by steel selachian on Mar 19, 2018 18:52:27 GMT -6
Paul Allen's team followed up their discovery of the Lexington with another casualty from 1942 - USS Juneau (CL-52), crippled during the First Naval Battle of Guadalcanal on the night of November 12, 1942 and then sunk by I-26 the following afternoon while en route to Espiritu Santo for repairs. As she broke in half and sank in approximately 20 seconds, the two cruisers traveling with her (USS San Francisco and USS Helena, both of which had also been damaged the previous night) assumed there were no survivors and departed the area. In fact approximately 100 men survived the sinking; eight days later only 10 survivors were recovered. www.paulallen.com/uss-juneau-wreck-located-famous-for-sullivan-brothers/ |
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Post by oldpop2000 on Mar 19, 2018 19:55:16 GMT -6
Paul Allen's team followed up their discovery of the Lexington with another casualty from 1942 - USS Juneau (CL-52), crippled during the First Naval Battle of Guadalcanal on the night of November 12, 1942 and then sunk by I-26 the following afternoon while en route to Espiritu Santo for repairs. As she broke in half and sank in approximately 20 seconds, the two cruisers traveling with her (USS San Francisco and USS Helena, both of which had also been damaged the previous night) assumed there were no survivors and departed the area. In fact approximately 100 men survived the sinking; eight days later only 10 survivors were recovered. www.paulallen.com/uss-juneau-wreck-located-famous-for-sullivan-brothers/Another important discovery, good for the families of the missing sailors. The decision by the Sullivan's was absurd, self-centered and not thinking about their family. |
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Post by steel selachian on Mar 19, 2018 21:25:32 GMT -6
Paul Allen's team followed up their discovery of the Lexington with another casualty from 1942 - USS Juneau (CL-52), crippled during the First Naval Battle of Guadalcanal on the night of November 12, 1942 and then sunk by I-26 the following afternoon while en route to Espiritu Santo for repairs. As she broke in half and sank in approximately 20 seconds, the two cruisers traveling with her (USS San Francisco and USS Helena, both of which had also been damaged the previous night) assumed there were no survivors and departed the area. In fact approximately 100 men survived the sinking; eight days later only 10 survivors were recovered. www.paulallen.com/uss-juneau-wreck-located-famous-for-sullivan-brothers/Another important discovery, good for the families of the missing sailors. The decision by the Sullivan's was absurd, self-centered and not thinking about their family. I know I did not find out until my last day in service, that because I was the only male in the family, the USAF would not have sent me to Vietnam. Great time to tell me, after all is done. It's hard for me to judge that decision; logically speaking it was foolish and it was the worst luck imaginable that their ship would be sunk in such a manner as to leave almost no survivors. One can perhaps argue though that if they were that close, keeping them together on the same ship was better for their morale than splitting them up across the fleet. There was another set of four brothers on the Juneau, but two transferred off the ship prior to the battle. Another thirty pairs of brothers were on the ship. There were several other instances during WWII when multiple siblings were KIA while serving in different units and theaters (most notably, one family lost four of their five serving sons over a six-month period), which also prompted the U.S. military's "Sole Survivor Policy." However, it currently only applies during peacetime (not during war or national emergency) and it is voluntary - the last surviving son in a family can opt to remain on duty. It also did not bring an end to brothers serving and occasionally dying in the same unit - three brothers served on the USS Frank E. Evans (DD-754) during Vietnam, and all three were killed when the Australian carrier HMAS Melbourne collided with her during an exercise. I recently advised a close friend who is dealing with survivor's guilt that for all the "shoulda-woulda-couldas," sometimes a decision that turns out bad is the same one that a million different versions of you in a million different alternate universes would have made. The two older Sullivan brothers, George and Frank, had previously served in the fleet and been discharged prior to Pearl Harbor. Their sister's boyfriend had been killed at Pearl Harbor, and that was cited as the motivation for all five to sign on. I imagine they pushed very hard to fight together. According to some accounts, at least two of the brothers were slated to leave the Juneau once she reached Espiritu Santo. |
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Post by oldpop2000 on Mar 19, 2018 22:18:06 GMT -6
Another important discovery, good for the families of the missing sailors. The decision by the Sullivan's was absurd, self-centered and not thinking about their family. I know I did not find out until my last day in service, that because I was the only male in the family, the USAF would not have sent me to Vietnam. Great time to tell me, after all is done. It's hard for me to judge that decision; logically speaking it was foolish and it was the worst luck imaginable that their ship would be sunk in such a manner as to leave almost no survivors. One can perhaps argue though that if they were that close, keeping them together on the same ship was better for their morale than splitting them up across the fleet. There was another set of four brothers on the Juneau, but two transferred off the ship prior to the battle. Another thirty pairs of brothers were on the ship. There were several other instances during WWII when multiple siblings were KIA while serving in different units and theaters (most notably, one family lost four of their five serving sons over a six-month period), which also prompted the U.S. military's "Sole Survivor Policy." However, it currently only applies during peacetime (not during war or national emergency) and it is voluntary - the last surviving son in a family can opt to remain on duty. It also did not bring an end to brothers serving and occasionally dying in the same unit - three brothers served on the USS Frank E. Evans (DD-754) during Vietnam, and all three were killed when the Australian carrier HMAS Melbourne collided with her during an exercise. I recently advised a close friend who is dealing with survivor's guilt that for all the "shoulda-woulda-couldas," sometimes a decision that turns out bad is the same one that a million different versions of you in a million different alternate universes would have made. The two older Sullivan brothers, George and Frank, had previously served in the fleet and been discharged prior to Pearl Harbor. Their sister's boyfriend had been killed at Pearl Harbor, and that was cited as the motivation for all five to sign on. I imagine they pushed very hard to fight together. According to some accounts, at least two of the brothers were slated to leave the Juneau once she reached Espiritu Santo. I've read about those incidents and as to the "sole survivor" it kept me out of combat specifically Vietnam. However, there is that issue of your family heritage, and that should not have been risked. There were other ways to serve your country and contribute. Charging to the sounds of the guns, isn't always the best path to serving. |
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Post by oldpop2000 on Apr 18, 2018 18:11:30 GMT -6
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