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Post by williammiller on Oct 15, 2018 17:56:07 GMT -6
Some 'Tall Boy' bombs dropped by a squadron of Lancs would have been painful for the crews I would imagine...
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Post by oldpop2000 on Oct 15, 2018 18:03:33 GMT -6
Some 'Tall Boy' bombs dropped by a squadron of Lancs would have been painful for the crews I would imagine... That is very true, but the Grand Slam came along, 22000, penetration of 20 feet of concrete, the grandslam was designed for concrete. It was a little late but it was available. Both were potent.
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Post by cv10 on Oct 15, 2018 18:21:20 GMT -6
Yes, I also enjoyed my visit there a few years back. Things to keep in mind which made this single turret way more effective than on ship:
1) dispersed and hardened ultre-long baseline fire control at very high "eye height" with fully pre-planned ballistic tables 2) Very high elevation (up to 40°) available 3) large roomy magazine (compared to shipboard) leads to higher "real" sustained ROF
Of course, the real answer to the entire installation would have been air attack...
The Ceaser turret at the Austrått Fort near Trøndelag is a rather interesting site to behold. The Norwegians did a nice job of maintaing the turret and surrounding facilities. The barrack and the ammunition room are both open to the public. I certainly would not want to have tried to force my way into Trondheim Fjord up against that. In all candor, I must admit that I have not been able to visit Austrått Fort, or Norway (though Norway is on my bucket list). I've been interested in coastal fortifications for a long time, and I've looked at a lot of pictures of the Fort (which always struck me as being remarkably well-preserved in contrast to other decommissioned fortifications) and studied other German fortifications during WW II. Being from the US, I try to visit the old coastal fortifications that are still standing at some of the larger port cities. Fort Moultrie at Charleston is a favorite, and I went to Fort Sumter to get a closer look at Battery Huger, which was built over the fort in 1898.
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Post by oldpop2000 on Oct 15, 2018 19:11:28 GMT -6
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Post by cv10 on Oct 15, 2018 19:37:57 GMT -6
Much obliged for the link!
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Post by oldpop2000 on Oct 15, 2018 19:41:32 GMT -6
Much obliged for the link! You are welcome. There were coastal guns in the side of Point Loma. The caves are still there, used by NEL as storage and labs.
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Post by kyle on Oct 15, 2018 20:38:43 GMT -6
The old forts on either the Oregon or Washington side of the Columbia river are quite interesting and explorable (spell check says that's not a word, well I made it one). Ft. Stevens Oregon is I believe the only place in the continental US shelled during WW2 - in this case by a Japanese Submarine. Aside from the forts seeing the mighty Columbia river where it meets the Pacific Ocean is a site to see it its own right.
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Post by oaktree on Oct 15, 2018 21:40:40 GMT -6
The old forts on either the Oregon or Washington side of the Columbia river are quite interesting and explorable (spell check says that's not a word, well I made it one). Ft. Stevens Oregon is I believe the only place in the continental US shelled during WW2 - in this case by a Japanese Submarine. Aside from the forts seeing the mighty Columbia river where it meets the Pacific Ocean is a site to see it its own right. Fort Stevens has a replica 6" disappearing gun in one of the battery locations. Plus two 5" destroyer turrets as stand-ins for 6" 1903 guns at another battery. There are two 6" 1903 guns at the fort on the Washington side of the river as well as multiple concrete battery positions. Both locations are a good visit and there are displays describing the batteries and minefields that defended the mouth of the Columbia.
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