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Post by fightingflattops on Oct 17, 2018 6:42:05 GMT -6
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Post by williammiller on Oct 17, 2018 9:00:51 GMT -6
Interesting idea - I will throw it into the pool of (possible) suggestions for RTW2. No promises though...
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Post by archelaos on Oct 17, 2018 11:57:04 GMT -6
The problem is that it's very Pacific centred, and maybe possible in Caribbean too, as it require lots of small islands. In other places your men behind enemy lines will be ordinary spies.
But maybe an event revealing names of some ships in seazone based on air search/sub spotting/spies/coast watchers etc.
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Post by oldpop2000 on Oct 17, 2018 13:04:08 GMT -6
Most of the Coast Watchers in the Solomon's were Australians that had lived on Bougainville and other islands in the Chain. They were district officers in some cases. They were all part of the Australian Coast Watcher Organization started before WW1. Some were on Papua and New Guinea, New Britain, New Ireland, the Admiralties, the Trobriands. In the Solomon Islands they were used with permission by the British. Some were government officials, missionaries, owners of plantations, captains of trading ships, pearling luggers and gold prospectors.
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Post by axe99 on Oct 17, 2018 15:14:19 GMT -6
That book by Patrick Lindsay is a good 'un, well worth a read (if interested in Coast Watchers/the Pacific War). As for the game, it'd need some kind of mechanic for keeping track of occupations (ie, the US had occupied the Philippines, and has now left, but left people there to keep an eye on things, so more intelligence in the South China Sea and surrounds, say). I'm not sure it necessarily works at the level of geographic (and intelligence) abstraction for RtW2, but if Fredik can find a way for it too, then it sounds good to me .
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Post by aeson on Oct 17, 2018 16:42:13 GMT -6
The problem is that it's very Pacific centred, and maybe possible in Caribbean too, as it require lots of small islands. In other places your men behind enemy lines will be ordinary spies. Not necessarily. Parts of the Skagerrack and Kattegat or the passages into those areas are narrow enough that you could get some use out of coastwatchers in that region, especially if the Kiel Canal is for some reason unavailable to (some) major warships. Similarly, the Strait of Gibraltar is narrow enough that coastwatchers in (Spanish) Morocco and southern Spain could probably observe most traffic passing between the Atlantic Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea, and the Bab-el-Mandeb is narrow enough that coastwatchers in Yemen and Eritrea or Djibouti could probably observe most traffic passing between the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian Ocean. If there's a reason to be concerned about naval operations in the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz is likewise sufficiently narrow that most or all traffic passing through it could be observed by coastwatchers in Oman and Iran.
It might not have the same immediate operational value that coastwatchers' reports often had in the Pacific, but it'd still be useful for, say, France to know if major Russian/Soviet warships are passing into the North Sea, or for Italy to know that British or French warships are passing into the Mediterranean from the Atlantic, and the coast watchers wouldn't necessarily need to be behind enemy lines to do it; Denmark and Norway remained neutral throughout the First World War while Spain and Sweden were neutral in both.
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