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Post by oldpop2000 on Jan 13, 2020 9:39:00 GMT -6
This monograph should be interesting. We can continue this discussion is you wish. I began to read Pedler's thesis with real interest. The author and his tutors deserve my compliments as an old teacher (of a completely different subject). I found a single mention to the Suez route, relating to a proposal by Mac Arthur and limited to sending troopships. I assume that even after the end of the Anglo-Japanese alliance it was unthinkable to remove the bulk of the US naval forces from the eastern Pacific in order to send them to the Atlantic and finally make them reappear in the western Pacific, after having traveled the long route to Suez and Manila. This is apart from the lack of repair capacity in the Philippine bases. Leaving the theme of this Thread, I wonder if documents on war plans and wargames, similar to those you have suggested here but relating to more recent periods in history, are accessible on the Net. A long time ago I read a translation of Andrew Wilson's book The Bomb and the Computer: The History of Professional Wargaming 1780- 1968There are some good books on the subject of wargaming and the Naval War College. Here is a list of mine. Gaming the Interwar by The US Government Testing American Sea Power by Craig C. Felker Playing War: Wargaming and the U.S. Navy Preparations for World War II by John M. Lillard To Train For War by Albert Nofi You can also search Public Document at the Defense Technical Information Center or DTIC Here is a link I generated for you. discover.dtic.mil/results/?q=naval%20wargamingBTW I purchased on sale, War Plan Orange from Matrix Games. Haven't had the chance to play it yet.
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Post by vonfriedman on Mar 8, 2020 8:28:37 GMT -6
I recently tried to develop a 1920 SAI scenario according to the Orange Plan option which was called "through ticket to Manila". According to SAI, if a mass of Japanese DDs based in the Mandates is able to intercept the US BBs at night, and if the DDs have a very high level of training, it is a real massacre.
Best wishes from one of the very next virus "red areas". Hoping to fare better that those unlucky BBs!
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Post by oldpop2000 on Mar 8, 2020 10:48:02 GMT -6
I recently tried to develop a 1920 SAI scenario according to the Orange Plan option which was called "through ticket to Manila". According to SAI, if a mass of Japanese DDs based in the Mandates is able to intercept the US BBs at night, and if the DDs have a very high level of training, it is a real massacre. Best wishes from one of the very next virus "red areas". Hoping to fare better that those unlucky BBs! Congrats on your operational success. I have the game WAR PLAN ORANGE, but I haven't started to play it. I guess now is a good time. Where is the SAI scenario Orange Plan Option, I would like to try it. One of the reasons that WPO was eliminated as a standalone operational plan was the problem of logistics. Losses per 1000 miles were estimated to be 10 percent of your ships. Here is an official estimate of losses in wargames of 1928, barges Shoemaker anticipated tonnage losses of 1 percent per month for large warships, 2 percent for merchantmen, and 3 percent for destroyers, submarines, and mineships. 39 Hospital ship allowances suggested a diminution of naval personnel of 3 percent per month. Ground force wastage was also set at 3 percent monthly, although Horne’s guess of 10 percent per month for marine assault units correlated better with a presumption that half the landing barges would be lost. Flying units of both services were expected to suffer casualties of 25 percent per month; squadrons were allocated 50 percent reserves of men and machines. Miller, Edward S.. War Plan Orange: The U.S. Strategy to Defeat Japan, 1897-1945 (Kindle Locations 3073-3077). Naval Institute Press. Kindle Edition. Sobering thoughts and estimates, IMHO. BTW, my daughter works at Kaiser Hospital and has said that this virus stuff is not that bad, at least here in San Diego. She has given us some tips to avoid the problem. Basically, stay away from crowds, use bactracin in your nose to eliminate germs and wash your hands many times during the day especially after going out. Good luck.
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Post by vonfriedman on Mar 9, 2020 12:27:31 GMT -6
Played as US my SAI scenario is rather boring. Either the AI Japs fail to find the US ships or fail to exploit their numbers/training advantage in the ensuing night battle.
As for the virus, the growth of infections is so rapid - at least so far - that hospital intensive care resources are at risk of being very quickly depleted. Also expect prison riots of panicked inmates.
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Post by oldpop2000 on Mar 9, 2020 15:15:20 GMT -6
Played as US my SAI scenario is rather boring. Either the AI Japs fail to find the US ships or fail to exploit their numbers/training advantage in the ensuing night battle. As for the virus, the growth of infections is so rapid - at least so far - that hospital intensive care resources are at risk of being very quickly depleted. Also expect prison riots of panicked inmates. As to the virus, my wife and I just stay away from crowds. But as I said, my daughter says its much ado about nothing.
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