What does it mean if a a plane has "M/H" torpedo capability?

[redmabuse]

The Title says it all.

A plane with "H" torpedoes will use the "heavy" range when being armed with torpedoes, and a plane with "M" capability will use the "M" range. But late in the game there are some planes with "M/H" capability, which seems to indicate that is better than "M". However, there is no way to arm them with "heavy" or "medium" torpedoes, or is there?

[dohboy]

Who knows. Whoever does is keeping secrets. That question always gets crickets.

[akd]

Can carry two torpedoes at heavy, one at medium?

[williammiller]

The torpedo load being listed at either "M/H" or only at "H" is an indication of the effect on the aircraft range that the torpedo load has on that particular aircraft model: if it is listed as "M/H" that means it will have the longer "M" range endurance when carrying the fish, while if it lists a "H" load then the aircraft will have the shorter "H" range endurance when carrying it.

Currently, no single-engined carrier-launched torpedo bomber will carry more than a single torpedo for an attack for a number of reasons - this has been extensively discussed/debated/argued in other threads, so please lets not start that here.

[dohboy]

So "M/H" is the same as "M"?

[dohboy]

Crickets... I thought we were going to get an answer for a second. Keep your secrets Willy, commencing useless speculation.

Perhaps M/H is an in-between range. If M=450, and H=300, then M/H=375.

Maybe there actually are different torpedo weights and M/H means a heavy torpedo with the range of medium load.

[williammiller]

My point actually is that "M/H" is not the same as "H". If the torp load is listed as "M/H" then the endurance used for the load is the "M" (medium load) endurance for the aircraft, which is a greater endurance than the "H" (heavy load) endurance. If the torp load is listed as "H" only, then the endurance used is the "H" (heavy load) endurance for the aircraft, which will be less than the "M" (medium load) endurance used for aircraft.

When a torpedo load is listed as "M/H" that simply means that the aircraft carries the same torpedo load at either "M" or "H" load ratings but uses the better "M" endurance value. If the torpedo load is listed as "H" that means that the aircraft model is carrying a heavy load even with the single torpedo, and thus its range is less. It has to do with payload capacity/ratio of capacity carried + range with "X" payload weight - some aircraft can carry a much heavier payload than others, and thus will have more of its max range available with the same payload, i.e. the same single torpedo load. Specifically - since aircraft in RTW2 only will carry a single aerial torp, and all aerial torps in the game have roughly the same basic load (weight) value, aircraft that have a relatively higher payload capacity will have a greater proportion of its max range available carrying that same torpedo, when compared to an aircraft model that has a lesser payload capacity carrying the same torpedo.  This is about as clear as I can make this...

Also, I don't go by 'Willy', I go by 'William'...I also never use 'Bill', my Dad was 'Bill', not me... :-)

[spacenerd4]

Ok, that makes sense.

[dohboy]

Aug 20, 2020 10:16:57 GMT -6 williammiller said:

My point actually is that "M/H" is not the same as "H".

No, but near as I can tell it's exactly the same as "M". Why the "/H"?

[spacenerd4]

It means that it can carry the torpedo at M range for either M or H loads.

[dohboy]

But what is a "H" or "M" torpedo load? They only carry one torpedo and all torpedoes are the same weight according to the above explanations.

We have had the difference between "M/H" and "H" described in sufficient detail, thereby answering half the question. If we can get the same for the difference between "M/H" and "M" (if there is any) we can put this to bed.

[spacenerd4]

H or M refers to the range stat that is used.

[spacenerd4]

It means either medium or heavy.

[dohboy]

But an aircraft can only carry one torpedo load, which is either heavy or medium. The load only applies to the endurance. Why would we need a heavy load at medium endurance?

[hawkeye]

I have been following this thread a bit and I'm imagining @dohboy is about to start to bang his head on the table

Seriously people, afaict, the issue is rather simple:

A plane that can carry a torpedo at medium load is obviously capable of carrying a torpedo at heavy load.

Is there an in-game reason for me to use heavy load, when I could use medium load (as in, is Avgas modeled in the game)?

Because if the answer is no, then showing M/H instead of just M makes no sense whatsoever.