Missing Hits !

[stingray]

Playing as Chin China in 1913. Have been at war for 2 months with Japan (for the 2nd time in a few years). My Task Force ran into a couple of Japanese merchants, with predictable results. The objective set by the BG was to sink any 2 ships.

Looking at the (hopefully) attached screenshot:

My CA has fired 197 rounds, but scored 0 hits. The log entries for the same ship on the other hand tell another story. Showing 1 hit on Merchant 2 and 8 hits on Merchant 0!

Another log file from the same encounter:

Again the hits are recorded.

I don't know whether this is a bug, or is it that hits on merchant ships are not counted in the same way as hits on other armed ships?

Any ideas?

[nimrod]

Welcome Stingray,

You might be seeing near misses. They are reported as hits in your ship logs, but they aren't recorded in the after-action report as a hit... They might be recorded as a hit if there is splinter damage, but I've never checked on that. In future battles you might want to cross check the TR logs with your ship logs. FYI near misses function the same as dud torpedoes and AC reporting more bomb / torp hits than reality. This is to mimic the fog of war and sailors / pilots being optimistic as they want credit for a hit or sinking.

If the transport logs show hits rather than near misses, than you have a bug.

[christian]

Do keep in mind during battle crews can misreport hits and misses

[stingray]

Thanks for the responses.

Having had a look through quite a number of previous posts on the site, I am somewhat unclear about the accuracy of info reported within the game. I totally understand that figures relating to hits & damage displayed during combat can not be taken as 100% accurate due to FoW. But can I assume that the data reported in the after battle logs CAN be taken as being 100% accurate, and may thus be used as a baseline against which other data may be checked. Or is it the case that there is actually no such thing as 100% accuracy in any single log / report, and you have to compare & correlate events from a number of logs / reports perhaps using the timestamps for each event as a reference?

[aeson]

Mar 17, 2021 5:48:05 GMT -6 stingray said:

Thanks for the responses.

Having had a look through quite a number of previous posts on the site, I am somewhat unclear about the accuracy of info reported within the game. I totally understand that figures relating to hits & damage displayed during combat can not be taken as 100% accurate due to FoW. But can I assume that the data reported in the after battle logs CAN be taken as being 100% accurate, and may thus be used as a baseline against which other data may be checked. Or is it the case that there is actually no such thing as 100% accuracy in any single log / report, and you have to compare & correlate events from a number of logs / reports perhaps using the timestamps for each event as a reference?

Post-battle ships' logs are accurate as to hits taken and what hit them, but hits reported on enemy ships are only claims.

[christian]

You should technically be able to cross log both your ship and the enemy (if sunk) and see what amount of hits were reported compared to what was actually suffered


aeson are enemy ships combat logs on damage taken 100% accurate or are they based on your hit logs ?

[aeson]

Mar 22, 2021 5:46:12 GMT -6 christian said:

You should technically be able to cross log both your ship and the enemy (if sunk) and see what amount of hits were reported compared to what was actually suffered

The ability to view logs for enemy ships is not restricted to those that were sunk during the engagement. Double-clicking on the line for any ship or coastal installation present for the engagement in the Statistics menu accessible from the post-battle summary screen will pull up the ship's details and view its logs.

aeson are enemy ships combat logs on damage taken 100% accurate or are they based on your hit logs ?

As far as I know, they are 100% accurate; they certainly are not based on my ships' claimed hits since hits claimed by my ships do not necessarily appear in the target's logs.

[jwsmith26]

Near misses are often reported as hits in the master log and in the firing ship's log. Complete misses can also be reported as hits. These logs are often inaccurate.

Near misses and their damage effects are reported accurately in the targeted ship's logs. These logs appear to be accurate in every instance I have checked.

Near misses are not reported in any form in the after-action reports, regardless of the amount of damage they might inflict (splinter damage, hull plates caved in, etc.).

The above applies to gunfire, bomb and missile near misses.