AVR dont seem to get merchanats

[brygun]

Game4 do AVR get kills.7z (372.19 KB)

In this USA game in war vs ITA I've made a large number of small Aviation Raiders, AVR, as well as the Cruiser Light Raiders CLR.

In the between turn messages Im seeing lots of kills by the CLR but the AVR arent appearing to get kills.  I confirmed they are "R" status.

Not sure if this is a bug or something missing.

The Aviation Raiders are ~2000 tons, 20+ knots, 3 planes, 5" and 3" guns, no armor, no mines.

The Cruiser Raiders are ~2,100 tons, 20+ knots, 1 plane, 5" and 3" guns, light armor, 20 mines

The Cruiser Raiders are ~2,100 tons, 20+ knots, zero plane, 5" and 3" guns, light armor, 20 mines 

edit: checked the CLR where not yet fitted with planes

Im seeing CLR getting 1 to 3 kills while the AVR right now dont show up at all.

Have I depleted all the merchants in the area?


The AVR were also in the Indian Ocean for a while where Italy has the Dijoubti colony so there should be some traffic there.

[brygun]

Initially the AVR where not in the mediterean. I moved some into the area with less than half showing up in the between turn log for sinking 1 merchant each.

[wlbjork]

The one's I've been using managed to rack up quite a few kills. Mine were using 6*4" guns and 5 planes, not sure if that makes a difference, but in a small game with 4 of those I was running riot against Russia, although to be fair I'd wrecked most of their surface combatants very quickly meaning they may not have had adequate TP vessels.

[brygun]

Should mention I assume the game isnt taking into account that the AVR are using bomb capable floatplanes. The CLR are too but they only have 1 floatplane so it would be daily on recon patrols. With a few extra floatplanes 1 or 2 could be held back from recon to drop its 250 lb bomb. While that wont sink a merchant on its own it could damage them to make closure by the AVR more likely.

I also have fanciful thoughts of the AVR sending 2 or 3 floatplane bomber raids ~50 km inland to bomb unsuspecting towns, factories, bridges, depots, railway lines or landscaped state gardens.

[brygun]

Sept 29, 2021 21:10:54 GMT -6 wlbjork said:

The one's I've been using managed to rack up quite a few kills. Mine were using 6*4" guns and 5 planes, not sure if that makes a difference, but in a small game with 4 of those I was running riot against Russia, although to be fair I'd wrecked most of their surface combatants very quickly meaning they may not have had adequate TP vessels.

It could be the game is running fine and its just an "Italy" issue... almost nothing outside the mediterrean and the med is full of their large navy which is bigger than what is sustainable at Malta. Enough TP to block a whack of the raiders but its off and on with the CLR showing up with kills. 50% or less of the AVR on the same turn are getting merchants. Could be that I maxed out 100% of what shipping there was.

I do have ships CLR/AVR now in the Indian ocean where Italy has its only colony and Ive been expecting at least some merchant shipping to sink there. One imagines the Dijobiti harbour staff looking out to sea noticing the buss of floatplane bombers and silhoutes of multiple raiders plus a couple of proper warships riding defense of the pack. Maybe theyve decided to keep their unarmed merchants in port.

[brygun]

Was checking some things and realized in this game the CLR are not yet fitted with floatplanes which makes it odder that they get kills when the AVR can't.

its

CLR as "CL" type, light armor, no planes, has mines, has guns, 21 knots

vs

AVR as "AV" type, no armor, has planes, no mines, has guns, 21 or 25 knots

[brygun]

Same game, later in another war am seeing AVR and CLR both get kills in the same region.

so probably not a bug just some other mechanic going on... like there is a limited number of merchants to intercept, the CLR processed first and killed them all. Maybe?