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Post by HolyDragoon on Mar 17, 2017 6:16:01 GMT -6
Yes, that is a casemated gun. I wouldn't count it as a modern ship or gun, though. True, then again, even after it's 1901 rebuild (which was one of those rebuilds that we ingame would probably say 'Hell No!'), it was still a pretty weird ship meant for coastal defence. Then it was in service until the 1930's, since out First Republic years were a bloody mess and there was no money to have a 'proper' navy. Either way, it was rendered obsolete by the late 19th Century's technology at first, and then it was left in service even though it would be little more than a practice target if it ever faced with a minimally prepared opponent.. Up until today, it holds the record for the warship with the biggest guns ever in service in our navy.
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Post by Airy W on Mar 17, 2017 21:05:27 GMT -6
That ship looks steampunk. Except cool.
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Post by ikahime on Mar 17, 2017 23:39:22 GMT -6
That ship looks steampunk. Except cool. The "Except cool" part is the important distinction
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Post by bcoopactual on Mar 18, 2017 0:54:19 GMT -6
Yes, that is a casemated gun. I wouldn't count it as a modern ship or gun, though. Not sure because I'm having trouble reading the article on my phone but that ship looks like one of these: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_battery_ship
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Post by HolyDragoon on Mar 18, 2017 6:47:46 GMT -6
Yes, it was one of those originally.
Feel free to ask if you don't understand something among the blabber of that page.
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Post by director on Mar 18, 2017 12:40:17 GMT -6
Well, it went something like this - with lots of jump-overs, circle-backs and detours down blind alleys:
Broadside (casemate) guns: small enough to fit through a moderately-sized gunport, light enough to be far enough above sealevel that waves didn't sink the ship (cautionary tale: Vasa), ships usually carried a lot of them.
Deck guns and pivot mounts: guns too big for conventional ports were put on deck, sometimes on pivots that could fire to either side. USS Niagara, CSS Alabama. No protection for crew.
Turret: the whole armored shell turns; decent protection for the crew and all-around fire (unless there's something on deck), USS Monitor, HMS Captain.
Central battery guns: really big guns that were put into armored 'boxes' or 'bay windows' that protruded from the ship's side. Could only be pointed in two or three directions but did give some ahead/astern fire. Advantage: the heavy weight isn't all the way up on top of the deck and the crew gets some protection. The ship we've been talking about.
Barbette: basically a semi-circular armored wall that the gun fires over, protecting the loading crew and magazines. If arranged diagonally (lozenge) fashion then they might hang over the ship's side for ahead/astern fire. If arranged on the center-line and sides then this is the famous French 'diamond' pattern. British 'Admiral' class ironclad battleships and Royal Sovereign class of 1891; every French battleship from maybe 1880 to 1900. USS Maine and Texas.
Armored barbette: an armored, non-moving barbette capped by a rotating armored shell (what we call a 'turret' today) that offers maximum protection to the crew loading and training the guns. Pretty much every battleship from the British Centurion class of 1894 and the Majestic class of 1895.
Sorry for the long disquisition - it's a fault I have. Basically, the move was to larger guns, then a realization that just a couple of very slow-firing guns couldn't hit anything. What followed were efforts to mount larger numbers of big guns, while maximizing their fields of fire and crew protection. The winning combination was an armored barbette, an armored gun-shield and a ship much larger than the ironclad battleships.
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Post by ikahime on Mar 19, 2017 0:52:21 GMT -6
Well, it went something like this - with lots of jump-overs, circle-backs and detours down blind alleys: ... Basically, the move was to larger guns, then a realization that just a couple of very slow-firing guns couldn't hit anything. At one point they even tried 16 inch guns in single mounts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_16.25_inch_Mk_I_naval_gun
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Post by director on Mar 19, 2017 20:25:11 GMT -6
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Post by boomboomf22 on Mar 21, 2017 0:39:13 GMT -6
I believe the proper response to both those guns is derpityderp.
In other news I sadly have not had any battles ​worth posting, but believe that tomorrow if I have time I shall post some ship pictures and stats from my fleet
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