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Post by cv10 on Aug 15, 2018 23:41:23 GMT -6
To kill some time as we wait for RTW 2, I figured we could suggest some possible names for aircraft carriers. I'll start by listing some of the general (but by no means completely exhaustive) naming conventions that each nation used up to 1950 for aircraft carrier names.
Royal Navy Adjectives: Illustrious, Formidable, Indefatigable, Audacious, Implacable, Glorious, Courageous, Furious, Venerable Intangible nouns: Glory, Vengeance, Mythological Gods and Animals: Unicorn, Perseus, Hermes, Famous Ships: Ark Royal, Big Nouns: Colossus, Ocean, Africa
US Navy Aviation Pioneers: Langley American Battles: Yorktown, Lexington, Bunker Hill, Bennington, San Jacinto, Founding Fathers: Franklin, Hancock, Randolph, Previous Warships: Essex, Ranger, Intrepid, Wasp, Hornet, Kearsarge
Japan Birds/Flying Creatures: Hosho, Ryujo, Soryu, Hiryu, Taiho Provinces: Kaga
French Navy: A Bit more difficult due to the lack of Carriers Famous Leaders from WW I: Joffre, Painlevé Places: Bearn
Germans Aviation Pioneers: Graf Zepplin
Italy Birds: Sparviero, Aquila (Sparrowhawk and Eagle)
Soviets I have no information/knowledge on this
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Post by oldpop2000 on Aug 16, 2018 8:09:41 GMT -6
To kill some time as we wait for RTW 2, I figured we could suggest some possible names for aircraft carriers. I'll start by listing some of the general (but by no means completely exhaustive) naming conventions that each nation used up to 1950 for aircraft carrier names. Royal Navy
Adjectives: Illustrious, Formidable, Indefatigable, Audacious, Implacable, Glorious, Courageous, Furious, Venerable
Intangible nouns: Glory, Vengeance,
Mythological Gods and Animals: Unicorn, Perseus, Hermes,
Famous Ships: Ark Royal, Big Nouns: Colossus, Ocean, Africa
US Navy
Aviation Pioneers: Langley
American Battles: Yorktown, Lexington, Bunker Hill, Bennington, San Jacinto,
Founding Fathers: Franklin, Hancock, Randolph,
Previous Warships: Essex, Ranger, Intrepid, Wasp, Hornet, KearsargeJapan
Birds/Flying Creatures: Hosho, Ryujo, Soryu, Hiryu, Taiho Provinces: KagaFrench Navy: A Bit more difficult due to the lack of Carriers Famous Leaders from WW I: Joffre, PainlevéPlaces: Bearn
GermansAviation Pioneers: Graf Zepplin
Italy
Birds: Sparviero, Aquila (Sparrowhawk and Eagle) Soviets
I have no information/knowledge on this The Soviets would probably name their carriers after famous admirals or cities. Possibly the Kiev, Admiral Kuznetsov, Leningrad etc.
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Post by Airy W on Aug 16, 2018 11:28:05 GMT -6
Famous Leaders from WW I: Joffre, Painlevé
Oh was Painlevé involved with WWI? I thought the name was supposed to be the first in a series of names poking fun at the British over Lancaster's law. Painlevé would be the first obviously, followed by Cauchy and Hermite. After those three you could perhaps favor Fermat if you are feeling nationalist, Sylvester if your humor is humanist or Ricardo if you just want to keep poking fun at the British.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Aug 16, 2018 16:32:39 GMT -6
(...this thread should have been named The March of Aircraft Carrier Naming... >.> )
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Post by axe99 on Aug 16, 2018 16:40:41 GMT -6
Nice thread CV10 (and a very appropriate one for you to start . Some more historical names (grabbed from 'Aircraft Carriers of the World' plus Google): France: Dixmude (CVE) - a Belgian town that French and Belgian soldiers successfully defended from attack in WW1 Arromanches (CVL) - one of the locations at the Normandy landings Lafayette (CVL) - name of a French Nobleman that fought in the US War of Independence Bois Belleau (CVL) - the Battle of Belleau wood. It's worth noting that the naming of at least three of the four above may well have been influenced by the ships originally being British (Arromanches) or American (Lafayette and Bois Belleau). Clemenceau (authorised CVL in 1947, but cancelled due to cost, then name post-war CV commissioned in '61) - famous prime minister (but could be something else) Foch (the other post-war CV of the Clemenceau class) - after Ferdinand Foch, a key military leader in WW1
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Post by cv10 on Aug 16, 2018 17:11:48 GMT -6
Famous Leaders from WW I: Joffre, Painlevé
Oh was Painlevé involved with WWI? I was only vaguely aware that he had:I think when I used the description "Famous leaders from WW I", I was mixing his career up with Raymond Poincare, It turns out he was: He was a minor cabinet minister (for Public Instruction) from 1915 to 1917. He was appointed Minister of War in the Spring of 1917 in the 5th Ribot Ministry. During his tenure, he authorized the Nivelle Offensive, endured having the Army mutiny, and sacked Nivelle as Commander-in-Chief in favor of Petain. He then replaced Ribot as Prime Minister, during which time he helped organize the Supreme Allied War Council, made Foch the French representative to it (which later led to Foch being made the Generalissimo of the Allied Forces), and was ousted after about 3 months. Not quite sure how he got a carrier named after him, but then again, I find interwar French politics and naval policy too convoluted to think of one.
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Post by cv10 on Aug 16, 2018 17:20:05 GMT -6
Nice thread CV10 (and a very appropriate one for you to start . Some more historical names (grabbed from 'Aircraft Carriers of the World' plus Google): France: Dixmude (CVE) - a Belgian town that French and Belgian soldiers successfully defended from attack in WW1 Arromanches (CVL) - one of the locations at the Normandy landings Lafayette (CVL) - name of a French Nobleman that fought in the US War of Independence Bois Belleau (CVL) - the Battle of Belleau wood. It's worth noting that the naming of at least three of the four above may well have been influenced by the ships originally being British (Arromanches) or American (Lafayette and Bois Belleau). Clemenceau (authorised CVL in 1947, but cancelled due to cost, then name post-war CV commissioned in '61) - famous prime minister (but could be something else) Foch (the other post-war CV of the Clemenceau class) - after Ferdinand Foch, a key military leader in WW1 Thanks! Dixmude would be a good choice for a CV as the French troops at Dixmude were a brigade of Fusiliers Marins (Naval Infantry that were apart of the Ministry of Marine: the Troupes de Marine were a part of the Colonial Ministry after the two ministries were seperated).
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Post by cv10 on Aug 16, 2018 17:21:26 GMT -6
(...this thread should have been named The March of Aircraft Carrier Naming... >.> ) The March of marching the Marcher lords in March to the tune of a march....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 17:25:47 GMT -6
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Post by pirateradar on Aug 16, 2018 19:39:35 GMT -6
Soviet aircraft carrier naming conventions we know--cities or admirals. Aircraft carrier names in a theoretical still-white postwar Russia... well, cities and admirals still seem safe, though the Leningrad would therefore still be the St. Petersburg.
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Post by wolfpack on Aug 16, 2018 22:54:35 GMT -6
ive heard the second graf zepplin was to be called “Peter strasser” so i’d assuem any other cv’s would follow similar naming to this with maybe ace’s taking names after all of the german aircraft pioneers names where used
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Post by akosjaccik on Aug 17, 2018 4:49:44 GMT -6
You gentlemen seem to be rather confident, so let me throw the ball up high: A-H carrier names.
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Post by HolyDragoon on Aug 17, 2018 7:20:11 GMT -6
You gentlemen seem to be rather confident, so let me throw the ball up high: A-H carrier names. Eitelkeit?
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Post by director on Aug 17, 2018 8:24:35 GMT -6
I'd suggest that French and non-Party-oriented German carriers could be named for famous scientists of both nations. I believe the French were prone to name cruisers for scientists anyway.
A-H carriers could be named for port cities, rivers or birds, perhaps?
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Post by tbr on Aug 17, 2018 8:34:44 GMT -6
The first Austro-Hungarian aircraft carrier needs to be named
"SMS Banfield"
the second
"SMS Lang"
Since these are all two Austro-Hungarian naval aviator aces then there are these additional "capital" names:
SMS Horthy SMS Daublebsky (or Sterneck zu Ehrenstein) SMS Trapp SMS Haus
and that is just the short run of names with Navy connotations from the below lists. Granted, most of these are also valid for battleships / cruisers.
For Austrian ship names these are IMO the best source material:
You gentlemen seem to be rather confident, so let me throw the ball up high: A-H carrier names.
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