Small improvements researched

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Hi, I tryed playing RTW2 again after a long time, and I have noticed something. When I research some small improvements (engine, AA, FC, etc...), I have no idea which one is applied automaticaly to all ships and which one needs a refit. I know that armor improvements cannot be aplied on already existing ship, but what about for example secondary gun hoists improvements? Will it remove the twin turret debuff automaticaly, or do I have to refit the ship? Or what about 15ft rangefinder? Is it put on the ship immediately? 
I think that some research announcements should contain something like "applied immediately", or "refit to apply", or "not for already existing ships".

[hawkeye]

As far as I understand it, this is how it works:

Anything that reads "gradual improvement.." is applied immediately.
Anything that reads "enables..." only takes effect after a refit (Director firing, Extended DC storage, Light AA and so on)

Exemption:
Armor related stuff only applies to ships build _after_ the improved armor is developed and no, a refit won't help here.

[jwsmith26]

Here's a small exception: Improved turrets, which remove operational problems with 3 and 4 gun turrets, will only take effect following a refit. You don't have to do anything specific other than undergoing a refit for the turrets to be improved.

[noshurviverse]

Jan 2, 2021 9:47:37 GMT -6 hawkeye said:

As far as I understand it, this is how it works:

Anything that reads "gradual improvement.." is applied immediately.
Anything that reads "enables..." only takes effect after a refit (Director firing, Extended DC storage, Light AA and so on)

Exemption:
Armor related stuff only applies to ships build _after_ the improved armor is developed and no, a refit won't help here.

That's always seemed odd to me, because when you look at the Damage Control tree, the majority of this stuff probably couldn't be applied retroactively

[wlbjork]

In-game we don't carry out refits, only rebuilds which are far more extensive.

Looking at that list:

Torpedo Protection already has limitations applied (Techs 2, 4, 10 and 12).

Design features should only apply on a new design - the ones I can identify being double*/triple bottoms (techs 0, 5 and 8) and improved subdivision (tech 1).

The rest are items that would be added or replaced during a minor refit, which means in game they are applied as soon as the tech is researched.


*Double bottoms - including full length double bottoms - existed and were used on warships prior to 1900. I believe in this case the tech is to represent this tech being used on all warships, therefore it can be argued as a "gradual" design here as well.