Training, How Does It Work?

[durandal]

Hey all,

Long time listener, first time caller.

Can someone clarify for me what I "get" for a year's worth of training?

Thanks!

[Rasputitsa]

Oct 2, 2015 10:55:31 GMT -6 durandal said:

Hey all,

Long time listener, first time caller.

Can someone clarify for me what I "get" for a year's worth of training?

Thanks!

From the Manual :

Gunnery: Gunnery training will give your ships
 10% better accuracy when firing guns. 30%
 increase in maintenance.


Night fighting: This will give your ships a bonus
 when spotting enemy ships at night, and less
 chance of hesitating before opening fire at
 night. It also gives a 10% accuracy bonus at
 night. 20% increase in maintenance.


Torpedo tactics: This will make your light forces
 more alert when carrying out torpedo attacks,
 quicker to react on flotilla attack orders and
 give better hit chances when firing torpedoes.
 20% increase in maintenance.


The first part of each line above is what you get, the increase in maintenance costs for your ships is what it costs to get these benefits.

[durandal]

Well I'm more interested in what number is being multiplied. I see the effects best in say, Japanese ships.

[tharr]

Yes, is the training accumulative ? Or do I need to be training in any given area for that year to get the benefit of that training ? Thanks

[Roumba]

I don't know about the Torpedo Tactics one, but the other two give an extra +10 entry in the chance to hit list of modifiers. How that list/calculation actually totals out is something I'm still working on in my noggin.

[mikebrough]

I'm also interested in WHEN the modifiers kick in and how long they last for. I think the pop-up shows that the modifiers kick in at the end of the 12 months of training but does they disappear immediately if you don't keep the training going?

[Rasputitsa]

Oct 2, 2015 19:10:00 GMT -6 tharr said:

Yes, is the training accumulative ? Or do I need to be training in any given area for that year to get the benefit of that training ? Thanks

You can set any two of the three categories of training (or none), which then applies for one year, after that year you can re-set the training priorities. You will receive notification of the improvement in performance of your crews as the training progresses. The cost will show in the budget totals.

[Rasputitsa]

Oct 2, 2015 14:14:25 GMT -6 durandal said:

Well I'm more interested in what number is being multiplied. I see the effects best in say, Japanese ships.

There is no simple number correlation, but a whole lot of factors and circumstances which are taken into account to produce the results you see in the game.  Here is the Manual extract on gunnery accuracy, where crew quality is but one factor, but it is a factor that you can influence with training.

Quote:

A lot of factors affect the gunnery of the ships in the simulation. Gunnery accuracy depends on:

Crew quality
Fire control
Firing ship turning
Target ship turning
Previous salvo on target
Sea state
Smoke interference
Damage to firing ship
Range
More than one ship firing on the target
Target evading

Dusk (firing eastwards in dusk or westwards at
dawn is penalised)

Glare (firing within 45 degrees of the sun within
one hour of sunset or sunrise, provided weather
is clear or partly cloudy).

You can't change the sea state, stop the sun setting, but you can improve crew quality.

This is a game covering many years, demonstrating great progress in technology as nations develop, sometimes one nation will be ahead, sometimes another, but the 10% training improvement will be applied to whatever the crew quality level is at that time. However the game does also take into account national characteristics, here is another extract.

Quote:

National characteristics

Efficient shipbuilding industry: Ships will take
10% shorter time to complete.

Undeveloped shipbuilding industry: Ships will
take 10% longer to complete and are more
prone to have unexpected faults, like not
reaching their design speed.

Global naval power: Nation must keep at least
10% of tonnage on foreign stations, cannot
have cramped crew quarters. May get
automatic budget raise if any other nation has a
similar budget.

Cautious: AI controlled forces will be cautious in
battles. Player risks extra prestige loss on losing
battles or losing capital ships.

Poor education level: Affects the crew quality
and build times of ships, and has a slight
negative effect on research.

Liberal Democracy: Lowers the risk of revolution
and will affect some events.

Autocracy, Bombastic head of state: Will affect
the likelihood of certain events.

Surprise attack: The nation has a penchant for
starting wars with a surprise attack on the
enemy fleet. There will be an 80% chance of a
surprise attack on the enemy fleet at the start
of a war.

Inconsistent naval policy: The politicians are
more likely to interfere in ship building design
and priorities.

Attention to detail: Ships are less likely to have
hidden defects or vulnerabilities.

Technology Leader: The nation has an
advantage in research, and if AI controlled will
spend on research to stay among the top
nations in technical development.

Hidden faults: Ships may have unexpected
faults, like a tendency to explode on turret hits
or similar.

I am quoting all this to try and show how detailed the game is and where you, as commander, are attempting to get the best results with the resources you have,  notwithstanding that a single lucky shot into an engine room, or magazine, could doom the best trained crew. Which takes you into the area of ship design ..........

Do you have enough money (and probably not) to place well trained crews into well armoured ships, using the most effective guns, with the speed to be in the action, and where is the correct balance of these factors, the possibilities are endless.

[Fredrik W]

Oct 3, 2015 1:18:58 GMT -6 mikebrough said:

I'm also interested in WHEN the modifiers kick in and how long they last for. I think the pop-up shows that the modifiers kick in at the end of the 12 months of training but does they disappear immediately if you don't keep the training going?

It takes 12 months to achieve proficiency in an area. You have to keep on spending on training to keep the benefits. The benefits disappear immediately upon stopping spending on that type of training, which is admittedly a simplification.

[tharr]

OK that clarifies training for me.. Cheers