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Post by tbr on Oct 10, 2015 6:30:34 GMT -6
We do not get any feedback in the design screen about "all or nothing" armor even after it has been researched. Game manual say to choose "flat deck on top of belt" as armor option and not put any values in belt extension and deck extension.
Does this apply to any class that can be armored? Is, in game trems, the "AON" technology just a weight reduction for the armor choice layout "flat deck on top of belt"? Could you add a check in the design screen after "AON" has been developed that notifies when "flat deck on top of belt" is selected and armor value is given for BE and/or DE? That would give some feedback for "AON" designs.
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Post by tbr on Oct 16, 2015 16:02:31 GMT -6
I am still getting BE hits to ships with "flat deck on top of belt" armor layout and "AON" researched before design. Of course, since there is 0 amror there all thos hits are penetrations. Shouldn't a "AON" ship have no BE hitzone at all?
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Post by ccip on Oct 16, 2015 16:46:10 GMT -6
With AoN ships (and other unarmored or partially unarmored designs), the "belt" zones are a bit of a misnomer, but they still exist. A BE hit on an unarmored ship is just a fore/aft hull hit.
Similarly, you can have "belt hits" destroyers and AMCs even though they don't have armor. It's a little confusing, but it keeps the system simpler by treating the unarmored zones as "zero-thickness belt".
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Post by fredsanford on Oct 16, 2015 17:01:22 GMT -6
I am still getting BE hits to ships with "flat deck on top of belt" armor layout and "AON" researched before design. Of course, since there is 0 amror there all thos hits are penetrations. Shouldn't a "AON" ship have no BE hitzone at all? The ship still has unarmored ends that can be hit. It just doesn't matter as much.
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Post by tbr on Oct 16, 2015 21:22:46 GMT -6
With AoN ships (and other unarmored or partially unarmored designs), the "belt" zones are a bit of a misnomer, but they still exist. A BE hit on an unarmored ship is just a fore/aft hull hit. Similarly, you can have "belt hits" destroyers and AMCs even though they don't have armor. It's a little confusing, but it keeps the system simpler by treating the unarmored zones as "zero-thickness belt". So is the "belted zone" in an AON ship fully covering the critical areas and a "BE" hit will only affect (and noncritically at that) floatation with a chance for fire and/or shrapnel damage to unarmored guns etc.?
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Post by trenton59 on Oct 16, 2015 22:25:55 GMT -6
That is my understanding from reading the manual and the previous discussions about the topic.
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