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Post by Burningapple3 on Aug 6, 2023 14:34:27 GMT -6
China in 1890 could not use 10-inch guns.
Therefore, no additional early KE can be manufactured. |
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Post by aeson on Aug 6, 2023 15:47:57 GMT -6
I would need to check to be certain, but I don't think that this is actually a bug; the legacy fleet is given some leeway to include things that your nation cannot build at game start so as to allow for ship types that had largely fallen out of favor historically but may still have been in service at the time the game begins.
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Post by Burningapple3 on Aug 6, 2023 19:40:30 GMT -6
I would need to check to be certain, but I don't think that this is actually a bug; the legacy fleet is given some leeway to include things that your nation cannot build at game start so as to allow for ship types that had largely fallen out of favor historically but may still have been in service at the time the game begins. Are you saying that a domestic 10in gun originally existed but was discontinued? There is a history of legacy ships with large caliber guns other than KE being ordered from foreign countries. |
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Post by wlbjork on Aug 6, 2023 21:12:43 GMT -6
Are you saying that a domestic 10in gun originally existed but was discontinued? There is a history of legacy ships with large caliber guns other than KE being ordered from foreign countries. That's how the Fleet Generation System is set up - at least for an 1890 start. Any ships that are small enough to be built in a local yard will be, and if the the ship uses a calibre of gun that your nation does not start with they gain a -3 quality gun for the purpose of manufacturing that vessel. Once the game proper starts, you cannot manufacture -3 quality guns so cannot build warships requiring those guns. |
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Post by Burningapple3 on Aug 7, 2023 3:44:16 GMT -6
Are you saying that a domestic 10in gun originally existed but was discontinued? There is a history of legacy ships with large caliber guns other than KE being ordered from foreign countries. That's how the Fleet Generation System is set up - at least for an 1890 start. Any ships that are small enough to be built in a local yard will be, and if the the ship uses a calibre of gun that your nation does not start with they gain a -3 quality gun for the purpose of manufacturing that vessel. Once the game proper starts, you cannot manufacture -3 quality guns so cannot build warships requiring those guns. Thanks for the answer.
To confirm, I repeated the 1890 Chinese scenario many times. The quality of the 10inKE was -2.
This should be able to be produced in the UK. |
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Post by williammiller on Aug 12, 2023 10:10:44 GMT -6
Fredrik W would know for 100% certain, but I think this is the case as aeson above describes, but will check with Fredrik W anyway.
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Post by Fredrik W on Aug 15, 2023 10:25:55 GMT -6
Not a bug, it is assumed they have gotten foreign assistance to build the ships, or built them abroad.
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Post by Burningapple3 on Aug 15, 2023 16:10:06 GMT -6
Not a bug, it is assumed they have gotten foreign assistance to build the ships, or built them abroad. Thanks for your reply! So you got the boat but not the blueprints. |
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