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Post by bigchina on May 14, 2019 15:26:42 GMT -6
I had this problem a long time ago with RtW 1 and appears to be happening with RtW 2. I've narrowed it down the problem with me having 2 monitors.
Basically the game will only let me open the design ship menu if i unplug one of my monitors (simply turning it off doesn't always work). All the other menu's seem to work fine. Is there a compatibility mode i can run this in that would help? Or a way to "trick" the software to only work on the main display (aka think there isn't another monitor).
Any help would be awesome, thanks.
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Post by Antediluvian Monster on May 14, 2019 15:34:00 GMT -6
Didn't have this issue with multiple monitors, though the design screen was bugged in the first demo (the gun selection disappeared in the "wide mode").
It does open the window bit off skew IIRC, but I think I just dragged it into the display I was using.
Using Windows 7 with the monitor setup established with basic Windows tools.
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Post by bigchina on May 14, 2019 15:38:21 GMT -6
Didn't have this issue with multiple monitors, though the design screen was bugged in the first demo (the gun selection disappeared in the "wide mode"). It does open the window bit off skew IIRC, but I think I just dragged it into the display I was using. The problem for me is not that it appears of screen (trust me ive tried everything for that), however, the design screen literally does not come up. If i spam click when the game first starts i can get it to appear for a split second before it closes again.
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Post by Antediluvian Monster on May 14, 2019 15:48:13 GMT -6
Didn't have this issue with multiple monitors, though the design screen was bugged in the first demo (the gun selection disappeared in the "wide mode"). It does open the window bit off skew IIRC, but I think I just dragged it into the display I was using. The problem for me is not that it appears of screen (trust me ive tried everything for that), however, the design screen literally does not come up. If i spam click when the game first starts i can get it to appear for a split second before it closes again. Providing the hardware specs is probably essential since it does seem like there is variation how game handles it. OS, monitors and their resolutions (I had 1600x900 and ancient 4:3 that I keep for legacy games), whether you are running some specific software to control the monitor setup (or your video card's software might be doing something).
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Post by bigchina on May 14, 2019 16:21:53 GMT -6
First Monitor (Main): 2560x1440 Second monitor: 3840x2160 GPU: Gtx 1080 CPU: Intel Core i7 4790k OS: Windows 10
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Post by williammiller on May 14, 2019 16:59:35 GMT -6
You might try setting the demo to run under the following compatibility options:
1) Run this program in compatibility mode for : Windows (XP Service Pack 3) 2) Check "Run this program as an administrator" 3) Under "Change High DPI settings" options, click on the "Open Advanced scaling settings" and set the "Let windows try to fix apps so they're not blurry" to OFF.
If the third step does not help, turn it back on so that other apps may get the benefit of possible anti-aliasing effects on the desktop.
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Post by bigchina on May 15, 2019 9:39:51 GMT -6
Sadly didn't help at all nws-online.proboards.com/thread/1437/problem-open-design-menuHere is an old thread where i had the problem with RtW1. It definitely is related to the second monitor. It isn't the biggest deal because i could play it on my laptop as a backup but would also be nice to get it on my desktop too
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Post by bigchina on May 16, 2019 9:52:51 GMT -6
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Post by williammiller on May 16, 2019 10:16:24 GMT -6
Wow - that is very odd. I have to say I have never seen nor heard of a child window in the (SAI, RTW or RTW2) games doing that. I'll take a closer look at it when I get more time (as you might imagine we are really *swamped* right now) - I have added that to the internal bug list for the game as well.
EDIT: You might try some multi-monitor tools, like 'Dual Monitor Tools' (http://dualmonitortool.sourceforge.net/) to see if anything they can do will help. Now, I don't know if it would offhand, but it would not hurt anyway to see... Also, have you tried to make your second monitor your primary monitor to see if that helps?
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Post by oldpop2000 on May 16, 2019 10:29:03 GMT -6
Wow - that is very odd. I have to say I have never seen nor heard of a child window in the (SAI, RTW or RTW2) game doing that. I'll take a closer look at it when I get more time (as you might imagine we are really *swamped* right now) - I have added that to the internal bug list for the game as well. William: I have dual monitors both are HDMI. I have never had any problems with your games. There are older games, that need directX and the proper version of Microsoft Visual C++ redistributable to make them work. Some only work in a windowed screen not a full screen. If you go to the device manager and right click on the display adapter that is being used, then the person can perform a update driver and use "search automatically for updated driver software". Another idea is the examine the version of the display driver that is used, go to that website for that video card and see if there is a driver that is not approved yet for Windows 10 by Microsoft. They are slow. This problem, IMHO, is an interaction between your application and the video driver software. Just some random ideas. I wish I could help, but if you can't duplicate the problem, you can't test or solve it. As an aside, I am using Intel HD Graphics 530 dated 11/19/2018 version 25.20.100.6446. If they have done an upgrade they might have updated the video driver, and they could roll it back to an older one. Dennis
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Post by bigchina on May 16, 2019 11:26:24 GMT -6
Will try both the ideas and let you know the results when i get home from work. I know its a weird issue and it's a hard one to fix with the setup, RtW 2 release, etc. So take your time.
Edit: As far as drivers are concerned, ive tried clean installing my GPU and display drivers, and also have tried a fresh install of windows a while ago with RtW 1. I do believe, like you said, it is a display driver issue however I don't know if it's a hardware or software issue. I can look into borrowing a second monitor to replace my current second monitor to see if that could help at some point.
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Post by oldpop2000 on May 16, 2019 11:42:05 GMT -6
Will try both the ideas and let you know the results when i get home from work. I know its a weird issue and it's a hard one to fix with the setup, RtW 2 release, etc. So take your time. Edit: As far as drivers are concerned, ive tried clean installing my GPU and display drivers, and also have tried a fresh install of windows a while ago with RtW 1. I do believe, like you said, it is a display driver issue however I don't know if it's a hardware or software issue. I can look into borrowing a second monitor to replace my current second monitor to see if that could help at some point. Check the display settings in control panel and make certain that both monitors are on the same scale and layout, same resolution, refresh rate, and that the multiple displays are set to Extend These Displays. Are both monitors running on HDMI or is one on HDMI and maybe DVI or VGA. Some cards have one HDMI and the other output port is generally DVI but maybe not. Notebooks are famous for this.
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Post by bigchina on May 16, 2019 18:10:31 GMT -6
Will try both the ideas and let you know the results when i get home from work. I know its a weird issue and it's a hard one to fix with the setup, RtW 2 release, etc. So take your time. Edit: As far as drivers are concerned, ive tried clean installing my GPU and display drivers, and also have tried a fresh install of windows a while ago with RtW 1. I do believe, like you said, it is a display driver issue however I don't know if it's a hardware or software issue. I can look into borrowing a second monitor to replace my current second monitor to see if that could help at some point. Check the display settings in control panel and make certain that both monitors are on the same scale and layout, same resolution, refresh rate, and that the multiple displays are set to Extend These Displays. Are both monitors running on HDMI or is one on HDMI and maybe DVI or VGA. Some cards have one HDMI and the other output port is generally DVI but maybe not. Notebooks are famous for this. Running both displays at the same resolution seemed to solve it. Thank you so much. They are display port. It appears when the second monitor is running 4k (my main is 1440p) RtW does not like it.
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Post by williammiller on May 16, 2019 18:14:21 GMT -6
That's good to hear you solved the issue - that solution might be of help with others with the same or very similar issues. Thanks!
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Post by oldpop2000 on May 16, 2019 18:39:44 GMT -6
Check the display settings in control panel and make certain that both monitors are on the same scale and layout, same resolution, refresh rate, and that the multiple displays are set to Extend These Displays. Are both monitors running on HDMI or is one on HDMI and maybe DVI or VGA. Some cards have one HDMI and the other output port is generally DVI but maybe not. Notebooks are famous for this. Running both displays at the same resolution seemed to solve it. Thank you so much. They are display port. It appears when the second monitor is running 4k (my main is 1440p) RtW does not like it. Great! I am very happy to hear your good news. When trying to solve these kinds of problems, think simple. Don't over complicate the problem. Trust me, it works.
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