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Post by thesovietonion on May 19, 2019 10:55:10 GMT -6
Hey gents.
Has anyone had issues with AVs not launching routine recon, forcing every recon floatplane launch to be readied and launched manually? I've also had an issue where my seaplanes will take off from the AV and land about ten minutes later, despite having a decent range.
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Post by aeson on May 19, 2019 11:40:22 GMT -6
Hey gents. Has anyone had issues with AVs not launching routine recon, forcing every recon floatplane launch to be readied and launched manually? I've also had an issue where my seaplanes will take off from the AV and land about ten minutes later, despite having a decent range. I haven't yet had opportunity to use AVs in battle, so I cannot comment. However, the manual says that the game will only automatically launch one air search per day, with the first search being launched at scenario start if there is sufficient light to do so (so if you want to set up a custom search pattern, do so before unpausing the game after loading into a battle scenario) and any subsequent automatic searches being launched at dawn each day. Are you not getting these searches, or were you expecting AVs to automatically conduct reconnaissance missions?
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Post by tbr on May 19, 2019 12:12:53 GMT -6
Hey gents. Has anyone had issues with AVs not launching routine recon, forcing every recon floatplane launch to be readied and launched manually? I've also had an issue where my seaplanes will take off from the AV and land about ten minutes later, despite having a decent range. Yes! I actually got off game and into the forum to write a bug report on this. In the demo and, now, my first RTW2 game I build dedicated "fleet scout" AV's with 12 planes and 6 catapult so that 2 of them (the max AV spawn in big battles) would serve to provide all scouting needs unde "floatplane scout" doctrine. But the game only tasks my CL's with floatplanes for scout launches automatically. |
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Post by thesovietonion on May 19, 2019 12:24:23 GMT -6
Hey gents. Has anyone had issues with AVs not launching routine recon, forcing every recon floatplane launch to be readied and launched manually? I've also had an issue where my seaplanes will take off from the AV and land about ten minutes later, despite having a decent range. I haven't yet had opportunity to use AVs in battle, so I cannot comment. However, the manual says that the game will only automatically launch one air search per day, with the first search being launched at scenario start if there is sufficient light to do so (so if you want to set up a custom search pattern, do so before unpausing the game after loading into a battle scenario) and any subsequent automatic searches being launched at dawn each day. Are you not getting these searches, or were you expecting AVs to automatically conduct reconnaissance missions?
Not getting the searches at all. I always modify the search patterns before I start the battle, since usually I'll have a few overflying land which isn't the most useful thing in the world. My carriers and cruisers seem to launch recon just fine, as do my airship bases. EDIT: It seems like my cruisers are 50/50 on if they want to do it. Cruisers that I've specially equipped with 1 or 2 floatplanes don't have them show up in the manual strike window either. |
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Post by tbr on May 20, 2019 1:19:17 GMT -6
To clarify that this AV issue is not the "stop to launch" bug:
All my AV's that experience this were catapult fitted.
I even had AMC's in raider battles with floatplanes that asked for permission to launch scout planes, that includes earliy ones without catapults.
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Post by akosjaccik on May 20, 2019 1:52:17 GMT -6
Frankly I think the issue is even more global and half-decent recon system is sorely needed so that the player can use without the need for either relying on the automated flights or individually sending out aircraft in a roughly given pattern. As such, I ditched AVs completely, even though I'd love to reliably use floatplane recon.
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Post by griffin01 on May 20, 2019 5:38:59 GMT -6
Do you have "Floatplane Search Priority" checked in doctrine screen? Perhaps this could solve that issue.
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Post by elouda on May 20, 2019 5:41:33 GMT -6
I had the same issue, and yes, I had Floatplane Search ticked. Both my 20 aircraft AVs and later my BB/BC/CL with 3/4 aircraft would not launch search patterns. Very occasionally (once or twice in 20 years) I would get the popup about requesting launches, but even then only for a single ship even when multiple were present.
I ended up just doing manual launches. Would be nice to see a fix for this.
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Post by warlock on May 20, 2019 8:17:46 GMT -6
Well this may or may not be the case but it seemed to me that how many plans me CVs launched for the initial search pattern seemed to be tied to my CAP. If I went with a minimal cap it seemed like only a few recon planes launched but if I had it on max, tons would launch. I have to be honest though, I may have just seemed to be the case and it might have been Just fighter launching for cap because to be honest, I had a massive air presence around Italy from Land Based Airplans and Airships, that within 15-30 game minutes, I usually had air based recon showing me everything with 300nm of land spotted with or without participation from my CVs. I will have to test this with something like Japan where I would have to rely on CV based searches.
Anyway, try selecting maximum cap before you un-pause your first minute in the game and see if that triggers a maximum launch of search planes.
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Post by dorn on May 20, 2019 9:19:36 GMT -6
I cannot see advantage of seaplane tender as soon as I have light carrier.
Torpedo bombers have better range and carrier itself is quite cheap.
If you use some old ship, refit can be done for about 3M.
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Post by dougphresh on May 20, 2019 9:29:45 GMT -6
I'd like to have AV and carrier recon automated like airbases, or at least have the option to do so.
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Post by pirateradar on May 20, 2019 9:55:34 GMT -6
I'm having this trouble right now. I'm doing a coastal raid and have my AVs with me and I'd love some recon flights, but they're not launching--though I think this is just the "ships without catapults can't actually launch planes" bug that we already know about.
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Post by Blothorn on May 20, 2019 10:28:31 GMT -6
Historically, floatplane tenders were very little used after the first carriers were developed--I don't think they are supposed to be balanced against carriers. (Mid-late game, floatplane search priority will probably be serviced by cruisers/battleships, not dedicated AVs.)
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Post by pirateradar on May 20, 2019 10:30:36 GMT -6
Historically, floatplane tenders were very little used after the first carriers were developed--I don't think they are supposed to be balanced against carriers. (Mid-late game, floatplane search priority will probably be serviced by cruisers/battleships, not dedicated AVs.) That's nice, but here in my current game in 1916 it would be nice if they did something. |
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Post by ramjb on May 20, 2019 10:38:49 GMT -6
hm. not my case. I've used AVs a couple times in my games and right at the beginning after setting my scouting priorities, the popup launched if I wanted them to stop to hoist down planes (I still had no catapults on them).
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