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Post by dorn on Jun 17, 2019 5:36:52 GMT -6
I think that all of it is not intended. v1.04
1. purchase of aircraft - prestige suffer It is bug telling that prestige suffers because player does not buy French design. How can do it if there no design exist. The last one on screenshot is the design I have just bought from USA and get this message (see save).
2. Aquisition of aicraft of certain type I notice in my playthrough that as UK I am always last (or almost last) to acquire new aicrafts type (dive bomber / medium bomber) in 1920 start. As UK is leading power in research, the probabilty is quiete low. But it has happen again in my second playthrough so I check save file: 4 nations has torpedo bombers, 3 nations (including me) does not have that technology. But all nations except me have torpedo bomber in 1927 (I have just bought it from USA), no alliance was from 1920 except me and USA.
So probability of such event is low that it is almost certain there is some bug.
3. No bomber even if having carrier Research areas - Naval aviation (heavier than air) and Shipboard aicrafts operation They should be linked.
But I have possibility to build CVL (just as looking in save, I will possibility to build even CV) but I was unable to build domestically any bomber! So my CVL was completely useless as only aircraft that I can put onboard was fighter!
Expectation: Either introduced some bomber which can at least do level bombing or when one of this technologies is under research (CVL conversion, CVL, CV conversion, CV) and no bomber is invented or under research than it is started being researched. (eg. Germany way to adapt land based bombers to carrier).
In history anybody who build carrier have some bombers and bombers were not reason for not building carrier.
save can be used to see all the issue except solving it just buying US torpedo bomber
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Post by JagdFlanker on Jun 17, 2019 16:39:41 GMT -6
part of the problem is you are able to design certain aircraft types a long time before you are told you can design them
i always try to develop torpedo and med bombers every few months to see if i can build them yet, and often i can develop them long before i get a message saying i can develop them
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Post by dorn on Jun 17, 2019 16:45:11 GMT -6
part of the problem is you are able to design certain aircraft types a long time before you are told you can design them i always try to develop torpedo and med bombers every few months to see if i can build them yet, and often i can develop them long before i get a message saying i can develop them I included save and I cannot develop it.
But if it is as you said, it needs changes to be clear when it is possible. Still there should be link between torpedo or some bomber and ability of CVL/CV construction.
But if it is as you said, it can explain why player could be almost last one to have that plane as probability of such event could be lower because it does not work as intended.
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Post by JagdFlanker on Jun 17, 2019 16:55:10 GMT -6
if your fighters can carry bombs you can always try loading bombs on fighters for a strike
it's not a great solution, but it's a solution - i havn't tried it yet myself so don't know how it would work out
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Post by dorn on Jun 17, 2019 17:00:37 GMT -6
if your fighters can carry bombs you can always try loading bombs on fighters for a strike it's not a great solution, but it's a solution - i havn't tried it yet myself so don't know how it would work out It is true but ability of fighters to carry bombs is quite late. So without tech of torpedo bombers your carriers cannot have single plane that can bomb anything which is quite strange. |
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Post by JagdFlanker on Jun 18, 2019 4:08:51 GMT -6
i *guess* you could propose fighters with bombload as one of it's requests, but of course a jack of all trades fighter isn't going to be a great fighter
if you could right-click on an aircraft in 'aircraft types' and manually change a fighter's role to 'fighter bomber' you could open up a new type of airgroup to be able to create a mix of fighters and fighter bomber airgroups - kind of what happened to the F-111 (except the USN didn't buy any and the USAF did)
don't know if that's historical though
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Post by dorn on Jun 18, 2019 4:40:23 GMT -6
i *guess* you could propose fighters with bombload as one of it's requests, but of course a jack of all trades fighter isn't going to be a great fighter if you could right-click on an aircraft in 'aircraft types' and manually change a fighter's role to 'fighter bomber' you could open up a new type of airgroup to be able to create a mix of fighters and fighter bomber airgroups - kind of what happened to the F-111 (except the USN didn't buy any and the USAF did) don't know if that's historical though British had first naval attack on ground target in WW2 using Sopwith Camel with bombs, later Dart from 1922, can carry torpedo or bombs.
Japan has Mitsubishi B1M carrying torpedo or bombs in 1922 for use on Hosho.
USN has Douglas DT in 1922 for use on Langley. Levasseur PL.7 was on Bearn in 1928 (year after Bearn was commissioned) but France has torpedo bombers earlier (eg. Borel-Odier Bo-T in WW1)
So I do not think that there is nessesary to create another "bomber" but to link carriers to aircrafts. So that if you are in way to have carrier, there should be made research in appropriate aicrafts. To have carrier in 1922 and even after 5 years to have no bomber, this is something that is not right.
A lot of another countries did not proceed with carriers and their naval avaition suffers but all countries (UK, USA, Japan, France) that focused in some way to develope aircraft carriers, developed bombers too for carriers too and quite quickly.
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