Possible unrest bug

[hawkeye]

Now, let me first state that I am not sure this _is_ a bug, but here goes:

So I'm playing Germany, medium fleet size, 1890 start.

It's now 1905, I have won a war with Russia in 1896, I think, and things went swimming, when suddenly my unrest started to rise.
No problem, my prestige is in the higher 30s, so I can sacrifice a few points and take budget lowering options for the next few events.

At least that's what I thought.
It's now 1905 and I am now at unrest 11, my prestige is down to 21, the Kaiser has given in to the mob twice and lowed my budget and there seems no way to stop this spiral of death.

What _really_ got me notice something might be off was the _way_ unrest went up. From 3 to 5 to 7 to 8 and to 9 within a single year. When it hit 10, the Kaiser gave in and lowed my budget, lowering unrest to 9, only for it to rise to 10 again a few months later, the Kaiser giving in again and again it rose (this time to 11).
What I'm getting at is, that to me it seems like once I hit a high enough unrest-level, there is no way of stopping it.
Because unrest is at 8+, unrest keeps rising, events are not common enough to really make a dent in it and the Kaiser appeasing the mob only lowers unrest by 1, which is way too little to break the cycle either.

Maybe someone can confirm this or perhaps tell me how to get out of this death-spiral.

Here a screenshot of my Almanac



And a savegame

Game1.7z (331.35 KB)

[hawkeye]

Update:
I copied the game into another slot and kept playing, concentrating on lowering tensions and my budget.
Over the course of, maybe 2 years, I have managed to get unrest down to 6.
But for this to happen I needed "The Kaiser gives in to the mob" event (lowered unrest from 11 to 9), immediately followed by the one, that allows me to agree to social reforms (lowered unrest from 9 to 8)
Then, unrest slowly went down to 6 (over the course of said 2 years or so).

I'm still not sure how unrest is calculated, as it seems to me that there is either a pretty long delay for any budget-cuts to take effect on the unrest (I'm pretty sure it was instant in RTW2) or there is still some kind of self reinforcing loop going on that can only be broken with luck (get enough of the events you need)

[dorn]

Did you have some events about increasing budget before unrest risen so high?

[hawkeye]

Well, yes, I took 2 or 3 options that increased my budget maybe during the year before the unrest started to rise - I _do_ keep an eye on my unrest before deciding on the options for events.

The thing is, unrest was at 3 or so since around 1900 and it stayed at that level for a loooong time up to the point unrest suddenly started to rise - and the actual rise wasn't directly linked to an event I took - I saw tensions rise from 5 to 7 without me having _any_ event that rose budget, for example and the same for going from 8 to 9 and from 9 to 11.

My guess by now is that unrest isn't directly linked to the increase of the budget but on the _absolute_ budget...which might be a problem - especially if there is a delay.

Example: Event --> unrest is 3 --> increase budget --> event --> unrest still 3 --> increase budget --> event --> unrest still 3 --> increase budget --> delay is over, high budget effect kicks in --> unrest rises --> event --> lower budget --> budget still too high --> unrest rises and so on.

[hawkeye]

Ok, I went back to where I copied the game and kept playing, unrest of 11 caused the socialist take over the government (or something to that effect) and cut my budget to hell. Unrest went down to 5, then 4 and then to 3 (this further reduction didn't seem to be linked to budget but to tensions going down?) - for all of two months.

Then, within some 18 months, I got six, count them SIX times the event "technological advances improve our productivity".
Great, the industry makes more money, the workers get more money and the government gets more money (via taxes) - everyone gets more money, everyone should be happy.
Yeah, nope, those six events rose my unrest back up to 8 (yes, I watched _very_ carefully and after each of those events except for one, unrest rose by 1).

So let me get this straight. Everyone's salary is raised six times within a year and a half and you are pissed that the somewhat higher taxes you pay for your increase in money earned is spent by the government?
Seriously?

[Fredrik W]

Unrest in peacetime is connected mainly to the military budget, so if you chose budget raising events consistently, you may end up with high unrest, though I have not seen it go that bad myself. Taking budget lowering event answers should bring unrest down eventually.