Post by brygun on Jul 7, 2023 9:24:14 GMT -6
Mentioned this early and providing a designer screenshot.
also... Can't even save it. Saving without design should be a thing.
So...
Going into the full CV age one solution is to use line ships that are more balanced in ability. Having 4 to 6 (here) main guns and heavy armor sot that they could do some line brawling. really that brawling to pin the enemy while air strikes would attack.
Here shown is using above water torpedoes. So in a close in slugging match with a normal enemy BB it would instead of heavy guns drop one or more spread of torps. A few torp hits would be much more useful than a 2-4 more heavy guns. (in this doctrine)
Into the 1950s missile age some or all those deck torps would be replaced by missile launchers.
A mathematical discussion also goes as follows:
There is RTW2 article I wrote on how the square-cube law is your friend that becomes your enemy. Growing the BX size makes it easier to use displacement (the cube being volume) to thicken the armor (which being a surface is the square). Once you start needing AA and SAMS those don't work the same as they are limited by deck space (a square). So growing bigger ships with heavier guns like 8x14" means you actually have >less< protection of AA and SAM per investment.
Thus applying that the square-cube will start to decline there is some "peak" of overall protection such as a 4 heavy guns protected by 14" belt and a good amount of AA/SAM. Increasing to 8 heavy guns only takes a little more tonnage but you gain very little AA/SAM space. Compare the AA/SAM divided by 4 and divided by 8. The 8 gun risks more of your investment to air and missile attacks.
So here's the need:
There needs to be a middle ground between BC and BB
A BB is used to bring in the dreadnaught error with 8 x heavy guns
BC is limited to 12" armor
above 12" armor only BB is accept which must have a min of 8 heavy guns.
Maybe inserting/assigning a ship design technology of Battle Middle or Battle Monitor ... BM which allows makes the BC / BB designation only depend on armor thickness and at least... 1? heavy gun.
Maybe attach it to the existing to the All forward armament technology. With some additional text in the popup and allowing it in the designer.
If you look at 70s 80s 90s cruisers they have sometimes a single gun forward for that sort of work with banks of missile batteries.
the BCT and BCM, or BM, im working on are along those lines of a reduced heavy guns to have other fighting means and balancing the risk in each ship.
Thank you for your time.
