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Post by lomaster on Aug 27, 2023 0:43:35 GMT -6
When i try to convert an AMC into a CV it gives me an error about "design bureau wont allow such a big ship without at least 8x8in guns". Now, 8in guns are not allowed on unarmored ships. And armor is not allowed on AMCs. So even after researching conversion to full sized CVs it is still imposible to do such conversions.
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Post by somedevil40 on Aug 28, 2023 22:22:31 GMT -6
You have to make it a CVL. Honestly that’s the best anyways most fully converted CV’s don’t carry much more planes then. CVL anyways
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Post by lomaster on Aug 28, 2023 22:38:05 GMT -6
Right, i have no problem converting AMC into CVL since they only require 6in guns at most. But why including the "Conversion to full sized CV" technology then??? It`s not only misleading but frustraiting too. Now i am left with my huge good-for-nothing AMC.
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Post by somedevil40 on Aug 29, 2023 0:26:26 GMT -6
Right, i have no problem converting AMC into CVL since they only require 6in guns at most. But why including the "Conversion to full sized CV" technology then??? It`s not only misleading but frustraiting too. Now i am left with my huge good-for-nothing AMC. Later in the game you can convert and don’t need the 8 in it’s only early game that you need the 8 in |
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Post by blarglol on Aug 29, 2023 9:16:34 GMT -6
I don't believe the conversion to full-sized CV is meant to apply to AMCs, but larger, older warships (or simply unneeded due to changing circumstances).
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Post by brygun on Sept 15, 2023 13:16:10 GMT -6
Have you tried copying your game to run a test of making the AMC>CVL with empty space or unneeded guns then converting CVL>CV removing the extras.
Its a frequent practice on that first 8inch CV to soon strip out some of the games to game a small number of extra planes.
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Post by andrewm on Oct 19, 2023 6:59:49 GMT -6
This is meant to represent that early carriers were almost entirely converted from Battleships and Battlecruisers (Or Large Light cruisers , whatever you call HMS Furious)
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Post by williammiller on Oct 21, 2023 14:37:44 GMT -6
The early 'consensus' on converting warships to carriers was to include at least a modest anti-surface armament. Later on it was discovered that this armament was (almost entirely) useless, but the rule is there to mimic this (almost universal) early design trend...and to avoid premature 20/20 hindsight by players :-)
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Post by brygun on Oct 24, 2023 13:45:30 GMT -6
The early 'consensus' on converting warships to carriers was to include at least a modest anti-surface armament. Later on it was discovered that this armament was (almost entirely) useless, but the rule is there to mimic this (almost universal) early design trend...and to avoid premature 20/20 hindsight by players :-) And once built an immediate refit of a few months can remove all/most of them and add in a few planes. Personally for RTW2 (yes 2) I liked to keep a few stern guns as CVs tended to get found. Not having it happen so much in RTW3 though we can now use stern casemates for 6" to 8" chasers to fend off DD or CL. |
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Post by konstantinosmegas on Oct 27, 2023 10:00:53 GMT -6
The early 'consensus' on converting warships to carriers was to include at least a modest anti-surface armament. Later on it was discovered that this armament was (almost entirely) useless, but the rule is there to mimic this (almost universal) early design trend...and to avoid premature 20/20 hindsight by players :-) Also, it is 100% warranted in the 1920s to have a modicum of surface armament for carriers in my experience with very early 1920 wars. |
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