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Post by menemene on Feb 24, 2024 9:18:28 GMT -6
In my current playthrough I'm trying to rectify my previous habits of not having enough support ships, and I've maintained a fleet of minesweepers through the years. When i introduced them, I would regularly see the pre-battle messages about how they were identifying and clearing minefields. Then as time went on, I saw more of "failed to clear minefield due to outdated equipment". I refit them and built a few new ones, and it went back to working well. Now, with mine-equipped cruisers and destroyers, I'm not getting any more messages about minesweeping in the pre-battle screen, just a long list saying where my ships have laid mines, and have been hitting lots of them in battles. Why have the minesweepers stopped doing their job.
One thing I thought of is that I had some spare displacement on the last minesweeper refit and added on the ability to carry a few mines on their own in addition to the minesweeping gear. Does this stop them from doing minesweeping duties? They still have the "m" tag, and I have what seems to be a good minesweeping score in the Area page. The vessels are set to active service.
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Post by jwsmith26 on Feb 24, 2024 10:01:16 GMT -6
In my current playthrough I'm trying to rectify my previous habits of not having enough support ships, and I've maintained a fleet of minesweepers through the years. When i introduced them, I would regularly see the pre-battle messages about how they were identifying and clearing minefields. Then as time went on, I saw more of "failed to clear minefield due to outdated equipment". I refit them and built a few new ones, and it went back to working well. Now, with mine-equipped cruisers and destroyers, I'm not getting any more messages about minesweeping in the pre-battle screen, just a long list saying where my ships have laid mines, and have been hitting lots of them in battles. Why have the minesweepers stopped doing their job.
One thing I thought of is that I had some spare displacement on the last minesweeper refit and added on the ability to carry a few mines on their own in addition to the minesweeping gear. Does this stop them from doing minesweeping duties? They still have the "m" tag, and I have what seems to be a good minesweeping score in the Area page. The vessels are set to active service.
I believe you have identified the problem. If I recall correctly, if a ship both carries mines and has minesweeping enabled, its minesweeping ability is significantly reduced, by 50% I think. I believe this information used to be in the manual, but I could not find it in the current version. |
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Post by menemene on Feb 24, 2024 12:33:12 GMT -6
In my current playthrough I'm trying to rectify my previous habits of not having enough support ships, and I've maintained a fleet of minesweepers through the years. When i introduced them, I would regularly see the pre-battle messages about how they were identifying and clearing minefields. Then as time went on, I saw more of "failed to clear minefield due to outdated equipment". I refit them and built a few new ones, and it went back to working well. Now, with mine-equipped cruisers and destroyers, I'm not getting any more messages about minesweeping in the pre-battle screen, just a long list saying where my ships have laid mines, and have been hitting lots of them in battles. Why have the minesweepers stopped doing their job.
One thing I thought of is that I had some spare displacement on the last minesweeper refit and added on the ability to carry a few mines on their own in addition to the minesweeping gear. Does this stop them from doing minesweeping duties? They still have the "m" tag, and I have what seems to be a good minesweeping score in the Area page. The vessels are set to active service.
I believe you have identified the problem. If I recall correctly, if a ship both carries mines and has minesweeping enabled, its minesweeping ability is significantly reduced, by 50% I think. I believe this information used to be in the manual, but I could not find it in the current version.
Thank you! Would have been nice to know, you should be able to see the ship's minesweeping score in the build screen just like you see the ASW score. I'll refit them back to pure minesweepers.
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Post by brygun on Feb 25, 2024 7:55:10 GMT -6
ASW is reduced by half if it carries minesweeping gear. That's a definite.
I've not heard of minesweepers/minesweeping combo giving penalties.
There is a mechanism now in the game that minesweepers over 10 years since refit have obsolete minesweeping gear. This was noticed in a start of battle message like:
HMS Oldyellar failed to sweep mines due to obsolete equipment
It is real easy to miss.
Try refitting your minesweepers 10 or more years out of refit. That may help.
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Post by jwsmith26 on Feb 25, 2024 9:46:07 GMT -6
ASW is reduced by half if it carries minesweeping gear. That's a definite. I've not heard of minesweepers/minesweeping combo giving penalties. There is a mechanism now in the game that minesweepers over 10 years since refit have obsolete minesweeping gear. This was noticed in a start of battle message like: HMS Oldyellar failed to sweep mines due to obsolete equipment It is real easy to miss. Try refitting your minesweepers 10 or more years out of refit. That may help. You are absolutely correct, brygun . Got my debuffs mixed up. |
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