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Post by blarglol on Mar 3, 2024 14:34:25 GMT -6
- Prevented fitting V turret on ships that couldn't have X turret.
Looking at SMS Derfflinger (and similar battlecruisers I have made), the higher rear turret appears to be in the V position. It was previously possible to make a ship like this without having superimposed X turrets unlocked. If this is now not possible, I would suggest amending the rule to not apply to BCs.
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Post by akd on Mar 3, 2024 15:47:13 GMT -6
- Prevented fitting V turret on ships that couldn't have X turret.
Looking at SMS Derfflinger (and similar battlecruisers I have made), the higher rear turret appears to be in the V position. It was previously possible to make a ship like this without having superimposed X turrets unlocked. If this is now not possible, I would suggest amending the rule to not apply to BCs.
Pretty sure this is an X turret in game terms. Also, I think you would need to unlock superimposed X turret before you could get superimposed B anyways, so that would be the real barrier to the Derfflinger design. |
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Post by raymart999 on Mar 5, 2024 2:00:08 GMT -6
- Prevented fitting V turret on ships that couldn't have X turret.
Looking at SMS Derfflinger (and similar battlecruisers I have made), the higher rear turret appears to be in the V position. It was previously possible to make a ship like this without having superimposed X turrets unlocked. If this is now not possible, I would suggest amending the rule to not apply to BCs.
Pretty sure the Deflingger has a normal ABXY turret layout, it's the rear X and Y turrets are just simply made to be farther apart from each other for some reason (can't find a reason as to why on any trusted website I could find) |
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Post by brygun on Mar 5, 2024 2:17:59 GMT -6
From a game standpoint I agree that its ABXY. Graphically it looks like V but the player can move the X all over the place to match the look.
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Post by asdfzxc922 on Mar 5, 2024 3:21:06 GMT -6
V turrets have always required the superfiring X turret tech.
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Post by ule on Mar 5, 2024 12:10:15 GMT -6
- Prevented fitting V turret on ships that couldn't have X turret.
Looking at SMS Derfflinger (and similar battlecruisers I have made), the higher rear turret appears to be in the V position. It was previously possible to make a ship like this without having superimposed X turrets unlocked. If this is now not possible, I would suggest amending the rule to not apply to BCs.
Pretty sure the Deflingger has a normal ABXY turret layout, it's the rear X and Y turrets are just simply made to be farther apart from each other for some reason (can't find a reason as to why on any trusted website I could find) The low pressure turbines and the condensers were placed between the C and D (X and Y in RN/game terms) turrets. This turbine placement is not an unusual feature for BCs at the time, see e.g. HMS Tiger or IJN Kongo. |
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Post by blarglol on Mar 5, 2024 13:24:25 GMT -6
V turrets have always required the superfiring X turret tech. I must have been mistaken then, because I know I made a BC A-B-V-Y, or so I thought. I will have to check... |
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Post by beagle on Mar 5, 2024 14:08:54 GMT -6
I suspect your memory is correct about having built ABVY ships. Template BC3G5 has a Derfflinger type design with ABVY turret configuration. I think the V turret is unlocked when one gets the X turret tech (not sure about that). Although it is possible to get the B tech before the X tech, it's happened to me at least twice, it's pretty rare.
While it is still possible to build a Derfflinger with version 37, it can't be done till you unlock the tech for X turret (I don't think you ever could).
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Post by beagle on Mar 5, 2024 14:14:22 GMT -6
Both of those times occurred when I was playing USA and got the B turret bonus tech before the X turret. I don't remember ever unlocking B before X any other way.
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Post by wlbjork on Mar 5, 2024 15:19:16 GMT -6
From a game standpoint I agree that its ABXY. Graphically it looks like V but the player can move the X all over the place to match the look. You can but V turret counts a s a midhips turret and inflicts RoF penalties on non-casemated/non-turretted secondaries/tertiaries. |
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Post by attemptingsuccess on Mar 27, 2024 14:20:47 GMT -6
- Prevented fitting V turret on ships that couldn't have X turret.
Looking at SMS Derfflinger (and similar battlecruisers I have made), the higher rear turret appears to be in the V position. It was previously possible to make a ship like this without having superimposed X turrets unlocked. If this is now not possible, I would suggest amending the rule to not apply to BCs.
Pretty sure the Deflingger has a normal ABXY turret layout, it's the rear X and Y turrets are just simply made to be farther apart from each other for some reason (can't find a reason as to why on any trusted website I could find) So, a V turret? I'm pretty sure that's what the V turret was made to represent |
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