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Justice for Heavy Cruisers!!! and Corvettes!!!
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Post by attemptingsuccess on Jun 1, 2024 14:36:33 GMT -6
Reconnaissance Aircraft Historically Nations operated some number of reconnaissance aircraft on their carriers (Blackburn Blackburn, F4F-7, RA-5, D4Y at Midway). However, currently, in the game there is no such dedicated reconnaissance aircraft on aircraft carriers. Only surface ships and land bases operated dedicated reconnaissance aircraft. I propose a few ways to solve this problem. 1. Allow Floatplanes to operate on aircraft carriers This is probably the simplest solution, and represents the fact that floatplanes and carrier recon were sometimes the same type of aircraft.
2. Create a new reconnaissance aircraft type, possibly with advantages to spotting (more accurate reports in location or fleet compositions) This would allow carrier recon to have better performance to floatplanes, and allow the planes to have jet performance without giving surface ships recon jets. Furthermore, it would allow the representation of the advanced camera packages these aircraft have.
Light Jet Attack RTW3 currently only has Jet Attack aircraft. This might represent something like the A-6 or Blackburn Buccaneer, which was fairly heavy and only operated from Supercarriers, but there were other jet attack aircraft like the A-4, A-7, and Super Entendard, which had no problem operating from smaller carriers. I propose a Light Jet Attack aircraft which has less bomb-load (4*2000lb 2*3000lb, instead of 4*3000 or 4*2500) than it's heavier counterpart. It also wouldn't carry HASM, instead carrying either 1 MASM or 2 LASM initially, with latter versions having 2 MASM, or possibly 4 LASM. It would have similar performance to its JA counterpart however. These aircraft would be available when you get Improved Jet Engines, with JA becoming available with a 1958 "Heavier Jet Attack Aircraft" tech
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Post by brygun on Jun 20, 2024 20:30:45 GMT -6
Some thoughts D4Y = Dive Bomber en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokosuka_D4YWe have dive bombers. In to WW2 (thus RTW2) it was the multi crew torpedo bomber and dive bombers that did carrier recon. With no electronics they had paper wheel, log charts and even fold away map tables to do location figuring by hand. A carrier with a Special Squadron could get 1-2 free recon planes but that is bizarre to figure out if they are AI controlled. Should they be scouting upwind since that is where the carrier is often going to steer? >>> Light Jet Attack Light Jet Fighters do at times get bombs and other ordnance later in the game. As for A-6 I think of it as the Heavy Jet Attack. The LJF in my head is the A-4 Skyhawk: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A-4_Skyhawk maximum takeoff weight of 24,500 pounds (11,100 kg) The A-6 maximum take off weight is Max takeoff weight: 60,400 lb (27,397 kg) (shore-based operations) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_A-6_Intruder
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Post by attemptingsuccess on Jun 20, 2024 23:46:08 GMT -6
Some thoughts D4Y = Dive Bomber en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokosuka_D4YWe have dive bombers. In to WW2 (thus RTW2) it was the multi crew torpedo bomber and dive bombers that did carrier recon. With no electronics they had paper wheel, log charts and even fold away map tables to do location figuring by hand. A carrier with a Special Squadron could get 1-2 free recon planes but that is bizarre to figure out if they are AI controlled. Should they be scouting upwind since that is where the carrier is often going to steer? >>> Light Jet Attack Light Jet Fighters do at times get bombs and other ordnance later in the game. As for A-6 I think of it as the Heavy Jet Attack. The LJF in my head is the A-4 Skyhawk: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A-4_Skyhawk maximum takeoff weight of 24,500 pounds (11,100 kg) The A-6 maximum take off weight is Max takeoff weight: 60,400 lb (27,397 kg) (shore-based operations) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_A-6_IntruderI know the D4Y was a dive bomber, but at the battle of midway a small number were on one of the Japanese carriers for reconnaissance. "It made its combat debut as a reconnaissance aircraft when two pre-production D4Y1-Cs embarked aboard the Sōryū to take part in the Battle of Midway in 1942."-Wikipedia article on the D4Y I agree on your point about A-6 being heavy jet attack, that was my point to. However currently we only have Jet Attack, so I was pointing out that the Jet Attack plane type represents the A-6 but not the lighter A-4 or A-7. In WW2 Dive Bombers and Torpedo bombers generally did the reconnaissance job, but earlier, in the 20s especially you had planes dedicated to recon and nothing else like the Blackburn Blackburn, Fairey IIIF, Hawker Osprey, and the Fairey Seal. Thinking on it some more, the best way to model this is to allow floatplanes to operate on carriers, with later recon planes counting as part of special squadrons
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