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Post by dorn on Aug 21, 2018 15:25:36 GMT -6
During war with France I had such superiority that I let my older armored cruisers mothballed all time. However I was quite surprised by this report:  |
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Post by bcoopactual on Aug 21, 2018 15:58:05 GMT -6
You have to admire that mine's resolve. Or perhaps it was air-dropped into the protected waters by un dirigeable.
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Post by Roumba on Aug 21, 2018 16:21:18 GMT -6
REMEMBER THE MAINE BLACK PRINCE!
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Post by director on Aug 21, 2018 18:29:51 GMT -6
Sounds like an 'official explanation' for the ship's loss...
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Post by cuirasspolisher on Aug 21, 2018 20:16:17 GMT -6
Those saboteurs are getting crafty, I'll give them that.
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Post by oldpop2000 on Aug 21, 2018 20:44:13 GMT -6
I am not supposed to expose this, I signed a NDA, but it was an armed, military dolphin. The Navy calls them Kamikaze Dolphins. They also use whales. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature. 
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Post by hardlec on Aug 21, 2018 21:12:21 GMT -6
I think the AI cheats.
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Post by williammiller on Aug 22, 2018 20:27:10 GMT -6
No, the AI in RTW does not cheat - we (speaking here for virtually all of us at NWS) have a personal distaste for games where the AI cheats!
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Post by dorn on Aug 23, 2018 1:59:06 GMT -6
Another things quite interesting relating mine warfare which is something strange to me.
I was in war with France. France had 3 BB, 3 BC (not issue for mine warfare). They have one modern CA, 3 CL (2 of them sunk during war). They had 17 submarines when I look at that issue (gross estimate about 30 at start of war as I sunk 2 submarines in average each month - gross guess). I do not know if all their submarines are capable of mine operations.
I had 54 minesweepers later in war (some sunk, no minesweeper built in war), all time minimum 88 (from 22 needed) for coastal patrol mission, usually around 100 (more than half of my 84 destroyers used of coastal patrol).
However I got almost every months om months in report of sinking one of my ship losing 1xBB, 1xCA (modern), 1xCL, 3xDD
How they did it? With my so huge fleet on ASW and minesweepers action and their French pity fleet for minelaying how it is possible? I am just worried how can my fleet by destroyed by mine warfare if they had proper minelaying fleet.
Or is it just extremely bad luck?
Note: my losses of 9 months from mines came to 140M. As UK it was not the issue however this is quite high for losses to mines only for 9 months, 15 M per month.
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Post by dorn on Aug 23, 2018 11:39:09 GMT -6
I checked after war French ships, no CL has mines. So all that damaged was done by 7 minelaying submarines (may be some more as being sunk).
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Post by HolyDragoon on Aug 23, 2018 12:00:32 GMT -6
I am not supposed to expose this, I signed a NDA, but it was an armed, military dolphin. The Navy calls them Kamikaze Dolphins. They also use whales. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.
Don't you mean Giant Squid? |
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Post by oldpop2000 on Aug 23, 2018 12:16:40 GMT -6
I am not supposed to expose this, I signed a NDA, but it was an armed, military dolphin. The Navy calls them Kamikaze Dolphins. They also use whales. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.
Don't you mean Giant Squid? Well, I am not at liberty to talk about that, but they did use dolphins because of their maneuverability and intelligence. |
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Post by boomboomf22 on Aug 24, 2018 1:03:47 GMT -6
Regarding dorns post, I believe (anyone want to back me up?) That there is a behind the scenes minelaying factor based on length of war that represents mines laid by dedicated minelayers. These dedicated minelayers are not modeled as actual ships you design and build for the likely reason that most were highly obsolete or converted auxiliary vessels without any meaningful armament, so it was likely decided to abstract them for simplicity.
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Post by JagdFlanker on Aug 24, 2018 4:52:44 GMT -6
AMCs are the only ship in the game that can carry mines at the start of the game, and the ai always builds at least some during wars
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Post by dorn on Aug 24, 2018 5:11:15 GMT -6
AMCs are the only ship in the game that can carry mines at the start of the game, and the ai always builds at least some during wars Good point, I think France had about 6 of them! Next time I will increase number of minesweepers, they are really cheap. |
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