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Post by fredsanford on Jul 7, 2019 17:15:14 GMT -6
Kinda a pain in the butt when you have to leave old BCs un-refit so they stay battlecruiser-y instead of transforming into BBs. You can refuse that re designation. Just say no.
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Post by jorgencab on Jul 7, 2019 18:01:41 GMT -6
I m not 100% sure, but I think that ships get the (O) 10 years after they are built or last refitted. And when they have the (O) for 5 years (so 15 years after build/last refit) their maintenance is increased by 50%. If I remember correctly, that 50% maintenance increase does not go away after a simple refit anymore. Maybe an engine refit will decrease that again, have not tested that, since I always do a small refit before I get slapped with the maintenance increase. Yes... I probably just never had that happen to me either even if I did not know it was the case.
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Post by JagdFlanker on Jul 8, 2019 2:31:47 GMT -6
I m not 100% sure, but I think that ships get the (O) 10 years after they are built or last refitted. And when they have the (O) for 5 years (so 15 years after build/last refit) their maintenance is increased by 50%. If I remember correctly, that 50% maintenance increase does not go away after a simple refit anymore. Maybe an engine refit will decrease that again, have not tested that, since I always do a small refit before I get slapped with the maintenance increase. all ship's maintenance goes up by 50% 15 years after it was launched - refits do no affect this in any way, no matter how many or few you do
never tried doing an engine refit though, might try that and see if it resets the ship maintenance cost
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Post by jorgencab on Jul 8, 2019 2:48:57 GMT -6
I m not 100% sure, but I think that ships get the (O) 10 years after they are built or last refitted. And when they have the (O) for 5 years (so 15 years after build/last refit) their maintenance is increased by 50%. If I remember correctly, that 50% maintenance increase does not go away after a simple refit anymore. Maybe an engine refit will decrease that again, have not tested that, since I always do a small refit before I get slapped with the maintenance increase. all ship's maintenance goes up by 50% 15 years after it was launched - refits do no affect this in any way, no matter how many or few you do
never tried doing an engine refit though, might try that and see if it resets the ship maintenance cost
I have no clue if it does but I don't think it should. Although increase in maintenance should perhaps increase a bit more incrementally rather than just arbitrarily after 15 years. It should perhaps be a bit more dynamic... depend on the ships general actions and usage over time etc...
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Post by dorn on Jul 8, 2019 3:24:11 GMT -6
I m not 100% sure, but I think that ships get the (O) 10 years after they are built or last refitted. And when they have the (O) for 5 years (so 15 years after build/last refit) their maintenance is increased by 50%. If I remember correctly, that 50% maintenance increase does not go away after a simple refit anymore. Maybe an engine refit will decrease that again, have not tested that, since I always do a small refit before I get slapped with the maintenance increase. all ship's maintenance goes up by 50% 15 years after it was launched - refits do no affect this in any way, no matter how many or few you do
never tried doing an engine refit though, might try that and see if it resets the ship maintenance cost
No, it does not.
Look at screenshot. Trident is 17 years old and have not increased maintenance costs. Small difference from original state comes from refits. If you look at destroyer Dard, it is almost 30 years old and no increse of maintenance costs either.
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Post by JagdFlanker on Jul 8, 2019 3:44:47 GMT -6
all ship's maintenance goes up by 50% 15 years after it was launched - refits do no affect this in any way, no matter how many or few you do
never tried doing an engine refit though, might try that and see if it resets the ship maintenance cost
No, it does not.
Look at screenshot. Trident is 17 years old and have not increased maintenance costs. Small difference from original state comes from refits. If you look at destroyer Dard, it is almost 30 years old and no increse of maintenance costs either.
can't explain your results, there may be some exceptions or randomness, i never used a mod, and can't speak for capital ships because i scrap them all before they hit 15 years, but in my games of RtW2 (i'v got at least 100 hours in) i'v seen all DD/KE's maintenance go up 50% after ~15 years without exception
i am obsessed with scrapping ships that hit the +50% maintenance point so i would assume i would have noticed any exceptions, and to this point i have not
will keep an eye out though
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Post by rodentnavy on Jul 8, 2019 15:09:35 GMT -6
No, it does not.
Look at screenshot. Trident is 17 years old and have not increased maintenance costs. Small difference from original state comes from refits. If you look at destroyer Dard, it is almost 30 years old and no increse of maintenance costs either.
can't explain your results, there may be some exceptions or randomness, i never used a mod, and can't speak for capital ships because i scrap them all before they hit 15 years, but in my games of RtW2 (i'v got at least 100 hours in) i'v seen all DD/KE's maintenance go up 50% after ~15 years without exception
i am obsessed with scrapping ships that hit the +50% maintenance point so i would assume i would have noticed any exceptions, and to this point i have not
will keep an eye out though
KEs yes but looking at a completed campaign as of January 1956 and none of my 1899 (o) DDs look any more expensive than before. I do find refitting corvettes seems to reverse that plus 50% cost at least until they hit old again. This a v1.05b re-thru btw.
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Post by JagdFlanker on Jul 8, 2019 16:04:02 GMT -6
it's entirely possible i scrap my DDs before the 15 year mark assuming the cost increase
i recently stopped using KEs for ASW since they can't win surface duels against subs and am now trying out 600t DDs for that task - will keep an eye out if/when maintenance goes up
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