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Post by bcoopactual on Dec 6, 2016 1:23:58 GMT -6
There are many ways to make a point in a debate. In any case I didn't see oldpop2000 take a side one way or the other, he was just trying to be helpful to someone who stated he didn't have access to his normal sources. And all he has done since then is return to the on-topic discussion.
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Post by boomboomf22 on Dec 6, 2016 5:40:21 GMT -6
Okay? Typically if you are trying to argue a point you provide your own arguments instead of linking to some possible research materials and asking your audience to make the argument for you. If you had bothered to read my last post you would know that A: I summarised on short the pages, and B: stated that my normal access to the stuff I have is non existent. So I repost ". So they made less than I remember, but the ones produced were a success and where a valid contribution to the conversation, not just late war derpyness. Just as well as I have no clue where the book is at home other than it is in the house somewhere ."
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Post by JagdFlanker on Dec 6, 2016 6:17:16 GMT -6
Didn't Canada have carriers at some point? Might be late cold war tho, and I suspect we (me being Canadian) didn't build them nah, we didn't build them. 1 was leased to Canada during WWII (wiki says 2, but then doesn't mention Canada in the 2nd ship's wiki description), and it returned to the USN after the war en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Puncher_(D79)
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Post by oldpop2000 on Dec 6, 2016 7:54:19 GMT -6
There are many ways to make a point in a debate. In any case I didn't see oldpop2000 take a side one way or the other, he was just trying to be helpful to someone who stated he didn't have access to his normal sources. And all he has done since then is return to the on-topic discussion. You are entirely correct and I appreciate you pointing that out to everyone. I wasn't taking any side, just providing a source and that should have been readily apparent to anyone. I am retired so I have much more time to spend researching information for discussions on this forum, as I have been doing for many years. Our discussions on this forum should be based on factual information, not speculation. I attempt to provide that factual information to allow all of you to proceed on your discussions with that vital information. I don't always succeed, but I try. Again thanks for the nice words on my behalf.
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Post by Airy W on Dec 6, 2016 8:18:54 GMT -6
I have looked back and I missed this: he was just trying to be helpful to someone who stated he didn't have access to his normal sources. My bad, I thought he was directing that comment towards me. Note: previous post deleted because it was purely a product of my confusion.
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Post by oldpop2000 on Dec 6, 2016 8:22:54 GMT -6
I have looked back and I missed this: he was just trying to be helpful to someone who stated he didn't have access to his normal sources. My bad, I thought he was directing that comment towards me. Note: previous post deleted because it was purely a product of my confusion. No problem, I am nearly seventy and get confused all the time. Especially when helping granddaughter with her math homework.
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Post by Airy W on Dec 6, 2016 8:28:46 GMT -6
That sounds like the sort of self depreciating thing you would say if you were a multi-camera sitcom character. Are you a retiree who lives with his smart alec son? Or a wise old black man?
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Post by oldpop2000 on Dec 6, 2016 9:39:10 GMT -6
That sounds like the sort of self depreciating thing you would say if you were a multi-camera sitcom character. Are you a retiree who lives with his smart alec son? Or a wise old black man? Naw, I am just a retired old avionics tech from the government, who helps grandma with the girl in the evenings. It's rewarding. We enjoy it, keeps us young...I hope. 'nough about me, let's continue with the discussion.
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Post by cv10 on Feb 12, 2017 0:26:59 GMT -6
The idea behind arming the Lexington and Saratoga with the 8 inch guns was a fear about hostile cruisers managing to get past the screening vessels. The idea behind them wasn't for the ship to act as a cruiser, but to be able to fight off a cruiser if they absolutely had to. Problem was that if they had to fire them over the flight deck, the blast from the guns would damage the deck. I'm not sure about the 6in guns on the Graf Zepplin, but the idea could have been similar: fear of a Russian or British cruiser getting past the escort. IIRC several of the Japanese carriers also had 8 inch guns mounted on casemates for similar reasons.
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Post by cv10 on Feb 12, 2017 0:27:54 GMT -6
Wow, I forgot that this hadn't been touched in two months...woops!
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