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Post by bcoopactual on Sept 21, 2018 20:56:31 GMT -6
They may have been specifically asked to make one for each of the game's major nations. The only ones from the original game not represented are A-H, Spain and the CSA right? That's probably just because there aren't any historical examples to work with at least not in the game's time period for Spain (not counting one seaplane/balloon carrier in the 20s/30s).
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Post by aeson on Sept 21, 2018 21:16:04 GMT -6
They may have been specifically asked to make one for each of the game's major nations. The only ones from the original game not represented are A-H, Spain and the CSA right? That's probably just because there aren't any historical examples to work with at least not in the game's time period for Spain (not counting one seaplane/balloon carrier in the 20s/30s). The Russian Empire/Soviet Union isn't represented, either. That said, I don't know that there is so much as a hypothetical Russian/Soviet aircraft carrier to work with before the end of the Second World War. Closest things I know of are a bunch of First World War seaplane tenders used by the Russian Empire, though I don't know what happened to most of them afterwards. |
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Post by axe99 on Sept 22, 2018 3:32:29 GMT -6
They may have been specifically asked to make one for each of the game's major nations. The only ones from the original game not represented are A-H, Spain and the CSA right? That's probably just because there aren't any historical examples to work with at least not in the game's time period for Spain (not counting one seaplane/balloon carrier in the 20s/30s). The Russian Empire/Soviet Union isn't represented, either. That said, I don't know that there is so much as a hypothetical Russian/Soviet aircraft carrier to work with before the end of the Second World War. Closest things I know of are a bunch of First World War seaplane tenders used by the Russian Empire, though I don't know what happened to most of them afterwards. If it'd be helpful, there are top-down views of a hypothetical converted Komsomolets, Project 71 and Project 72 CV from an article in Warship 2013 which I'll happily scan and post  . |
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Post by bcoopactual on Sept 22, 2018 5:55:16 GMT -6
The Russian Empire/Soviet Union isn't represented, either. That said, I don't know that there is so much as a hypothetical Russian/Soviet aircraft carrier to work with before the end of the Second World War. Closest things I know of are a bunch of First World War seaplane tenders used by the Russian Empire, though I don't know what happened to most of them afterwards. If it'd be helpful, there are top-down views of a hypothetical converted Komsomolets, Project 71 and Project 72 CV from an article in Warship 2013 which I'll happily scan and post . , yep I missed the Russians, thanks. I guess they fall into the same category as Spain. axe99 , sure if you want but we were just hypothesizing about possible reasons why some carriers were included in the developer post and some weren't. It's a trivial discussion and I hope the artist and the developers don't take it as criticism because I certainly didn't mean such, it's simple curiosity. Even if the new system isn't any easier to use than the old the results are still marvelous. |
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Post by williammiller on Sept 22, 2018 9:08:20 GMT -6
The Beta Team member that worked on the designs is currently recuperating from Battle Fatigue™ from his mad caffeine-induced design spree, hence why certain ships were not included in the batch  |
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Post by axe99 on Sept 22, 2018 15:26:58 GMT -6
The Beta Team member that worked on the designs is currently recuperating from Battle Fatigue™ from his mad caffeine-induced design spree, hence why certain ships were not included in the batch Haha, we hope that they're given an appropriately long period of R&R leave before returning to active duty . If those Soviet top-downs are helpful, let me know and I'll scan and post (but I wouldn't be surprised if you already had them, and more) . |
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Post by JagdFlanker on Sept 22, 2018 17:16:19 GMT -6
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Post by HolyDragoon on Sept 22, 2018 17:52:34 GMT -6
Huh... we get developer's entries from the future, now? (It's dated as Oct 21st)
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Post by williammiller on Sept 22, 2018 19:50:18 GMT -6
Huh... we get developer's entries from the future, now? (It's dated as Oct 21st) Well, its either everyone but me is actually living a month in the past, or...ahhhh...hummm. Ok, slightly more likely it's a typo on my part...fixed. |
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Post by onearmy on Sept 22, 2018 21:36:44 GMT -6
I am beyond excited for this. I'm not sure how close to release Rule the Waves 2 is, but if NWS needs more hands on deck to help with any sort of QA work, I've had a lot of informal experience doing volunteer Quality Assurance work for a few larger studios and also quite a bit of community projects for various games. Feel free to PM me or shoot me an email if you guys want that sort of help.
If not, keep on truckin'. It will be exciting to see the many new additions and changes. I imagine with the right mechanics, naval aviation will go hand-in-hand with Rule the Waves and offer many new opportunities.
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Post by jeb94 on Sept 22, 2018 23:44:56 GMT -6
Its pretty cool to see what can be done. By the way, to add my nitpick to the otherwise excellent drawings, the one listed as Soryu actually more closely resembles Hiryu. Soryu had a starboard island a bit forward and had the layout that was used for the Shokaku class. Hiryu had a port island amidships similar to Akagi. Fine work overall.
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Post by asheshouse on Sept 23, 2018 2:26:00 GMT -6
The Washington conference period saw a lot of construction being halted on the slips, then some ships being converted to carriers without ever having been launched as originally designed. So will it be possible to halt construction and redesign ships which are still in construction? A major upgrade for carriers occurs when the aircraft are replaced by more modern types. This would not require any major rebuild of the ship but would perhaps require a further period of Working Up. How will changes to aircraft types be handled in the game? Long serving carriers like Furious did undergo a number of rebuilds to improve their performance, capacity, and ability to handle later aircraft types. Lengthening the flight deck, increasing hanger space. Argus also was rebuilt before WWII. Taking Furious as an example, being an “early adopter” of new technology, although costly, should give a benefit of accelerated research outcomes. This provides a logic for the successive rebuilds of early carriers. Eagle, a battleship conversion, and Hermes, designed from scratch as a carrier, were both beneficiaries of lessons learnt operating Furious and Argus, most notably, the adoption of the island superstructure.
Changes in operating procedure can have significant impact, with no rebuild costs. Example, introduction of deck parking to RN carriers in 1943 significantly increased aircraft complement.
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Post by miv79 on Sept 24, 2018 9:19:16 GMT -6
I do not know whether it was discussed, but I would like to personally attach and create squadrons ships.
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Post by Fredrik W on Sept 24, 2018 12:43:35 GMT -6
The Washington conference period saw a lot of construction being halted on the slips, then some ships being converted to carriers without ever having been launched as originally designed. So will it be possible to halt construction and redesign ships which are still in construction? A major upgrade for carriers occurs when the aircraft are replaced by more modern types. This would not require any major rebuild of the ship but would perhaps require a further period of Working Up. How will changes to aircraft types be handled in the game? Long serving carriers like Furious did undergo a number of rebuilds to improve their performance, capacity, and ability to handle later aircraft types. Lengthening the flight deck, increasing hanger space. Argus also was rebuilt before WWII. Taking Furious as an example, being an “early adopter” of new technology, although costly, should give a benefit of accelerated research outcomes. This provides a logic for the successive rebuilds of early carriers. Eagle, a battleship conversion, and Hermes, designed from scratch as a carrier, were both beneficiaries of lessons learnt operating Furious and Argus, most notably, the adoption of the island superstructure.
Changes in operating procedure can have significant impact, with no rebuild costs. Example, introduction of deck parking to RN carriers in 1943 significantly increased aircraft complement.
Rebuilds to aircraft carriers will be in RTW2, as will development of shipboard aircraft operation. |
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Post by axe99 on Sept 24, 2018 15:59:40 GMT -6
The Washington conference period saw a lot of construction being halted on the slips, then some ships being converted to carriers without ever having been launched as originally designed. So will it be possible to halt construction and redesign ships which are still in construction? A major upgrade for carriers occurs when the aircraft are replaced by more modern types. This would not require any major rebuild of the ship but would perhaps require a further period of Working Up. How will changes to aircraft types be handled in the game? Long serving carriers like Furious did undergo a number of rebuilds to improve their performance, capacity, and ability to handle later aircraft types. Lengthening the flight deck, increasing hanger space. Argus also was rebuilt before WWII. Taking Furious as an example, being an “early adopter” of new technology, although costly, should give a benefit of accelerated research outcomes. This provides a logic for the successive rebuilds of early carriers. Eagle, a battleship conversion, and Hermes, designed from scratch as a carrier, were both beneficiaries of lessons learnt operating Furious and Argus, most notably, the adoption of the island superstructure.
Changes in operating procedure can have significant impact, with no rebuild costs. Example, introduction of deck parking to RN carriers in 1943 significantly increased aircraft complement.
Rebuilds to aircraft carriers will be in RTW2, as will development of shipboard aircraft operation. |
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