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Post by garychildress on Feb 16, 2019 22:37:30 GMT -6
I saw the thread on numbered subs which reminded me of some things from RTW1.
I've seen where smaller escorts will be featured in RTW2, corvettes or Anti-submarine escorts of some type or whatever. Will there be the ability to name them using numbers, E-1, E-2 through whatever, for example? In RTW1 you could do numerical numbering for submarines but it didn't seem to work for any other warships that I remember. Is it possible to expand that to include destroyers also? I'm thinking ahead to when I create modded fictional nations like I have now with RTW1. Also it would be cool to be able to use two letters for a numbered warship system such as "TB" for example.
It also might be good to be able to reclassify older DDs as "torpedo boats" or "escorts" (anti-submarine) as the game progresses.
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Post by cv10 on Feb 16, 2019 23:13:14 GMT -6
While I hope that they will have specific names for Corvettes/Destroyer Escorts (Flower Class, Edsall Class), I'm also hoping that there will be a Prefix option (K- or PF- or something along those lines)
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Post by bcoopactual on Feb 17, 2019 1:02:30 GMT -6
In RTW1 there is a DD counter similar to the SS one in the save game file but I don't know of any nation off the top of my head that uses DD prefixes instead of names so I don't know if it was implemented. It would be easy to test when I get home though.
To the point though, the mechanisms already exist so with enough interest it's probably easy enough to add eventually if they haven't at game release.
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Post by JagdFlanker on Feb 17, 2019 3:49:25 GMT -6
In RTW1 there is a DD counter similar to the SS one in the save game file but I don't know of any nation off the top of my head that uses DD prefixes instead of names so I don't know if it was implemented. It would be easy to test when I get home though. To the point though, the mechanisms already exist so with enough interest it's probably easy enough to add eventually if they haven't at game release. Germany uses 'V' prefix for their DDs |
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Post by Adseria on Feb 17, 2019 6:15:11 GMT -6
In RTW1 there is a DD counter similar to the SS one in the save game file but I don't know of any nation off the top of my head that uses DD prefixes instead of names so I don't know if it was implemented. It would be easy to test when I get home though. To the point though, the mechanisms already exist so with enough interest it's probably easy enough to add eventually if they haven't at game release. Germany uses 'V' prefix for their DDs Yes, but they don't do it in numerical order, the numbering is randomly selected. Also, they use the "S" prefix too. |
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Post by marauder on Feb 17, 2019 6:46:53 GMT -6
Germany uses 'V' prefix for their DDs Yes, but they don't do it in numerical order, the numbering is randomly selected. Also, they use the "S" prefix too. The numbering isn't randomly selected, actually. German destroyers in RtW1 have a premade name list (which can be viewed in NWS\Rule the Waves\Data\GermanyShipNames.dat) instead of the progressing numbers like the submarine naming system. Possibly due to multiple prefixes being incompatible with RtW1s name generation system?
In real life, Germany numbered destroyers much like submarines, at least during World War 1. (No clue about the Reichsmarine or Kriegsmarine, but I think it was about the same but with a T prefix standing for Torpedoboot and Z for Zerstörer.) The prefix denoted the building yard, so they could be quite random depending on which yards secured how many orders. Prefixes included V and S, as already mentioned, but also G, B, H and possibly a couple others that I can't really recall right now.
So the team probably did it like they did because it would have been too much work to create a random prefix script for destroyers that only a single nation would use anyway.
But unless a member of the team chimes in that's just speculation on my part  . |
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Post by Adseria on Feb 17, 2019 7:07:44 GMT -6
Yes, but they don't do it in numerical order, the numbering is randomly selected. Also, they use the "S" prefix too. The numbering isn't randomly selected, actually. German destroyers in RtW1 have a premade name list (which can be viewed in NWS\Rule the Waves\Data\GermanyShipNames.dat) instead of the progressing numbers like the submarine naming system. Possibly due to multiple prefixes being incompatible with RtW1s name generation system?
This is what I meant; it's randomly selected from a namelist, the same as anyone else's destroyers. |
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Post by aeson on Feb 17, 2019 10:28:50 GMT -6
In RTW1 there is a DD counter similar to the SS one in the save game file but I don't know of any nation off the top of my head that uses DD prefixes instead of names so I don't know if it was implemented. It would be easy to test when I get home though. To the point though, the mechanisms already exist so with enough interest it's probably easy enough to add eventually if they haven't at game release. Automatically generated serial designations for destroyers was implemented, but the game only does it if you've run out of names in the name list, and for most powers in the game it's not all that likely that you'll manage to do that. The US, for instance, has 373 proper names for its destroyers.
Any German destroyer name consisting of a number preceded by V, S, H, G, or B comes from a predetermined list of 216 names, reflecting historical usage of these alphanumeric codes for historical German destroyers. If you manage to run through that entire list, the prefix that the game uses for automatically-generated German destroyer names is actually T.
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Post by bcoopactual on Feb 17, 2019 18:02:25 GMT -6
Only tangentially related to the subject but I put together the list of USN destroyer escort names, removed any duplicates and put it in a notepad file. I added it to the group of Royal Navy destroyer theme lists that I made and put a link to the google drive RAR file in the custom ship name thread on the RTW1 forum. I'll update it with the lists for the Royal Navy corvettes when I get a chance. nws-online.proboards.com/thread/1205/custom-shipname-lists?page=2&scrollTo=36551 |
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Post by garychildress on Feb 17, 2019 19:24:11 GMT -6
Thinking about British naming conventions up to and through WW2, it would be kind of cool if naming could be set up so that there could be different types of names based on different classes of the same warship type. Example: you could have one series of corvettes named after flowers and another series of corvettes named after birds or whatever else OR if you want an "A" class ship with all names starting with "A" and then a "B" class and so on.
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Post by Adseria on Feb 18, 2019 1:55:39 GMT -6
Thinking about British naming conventions up to and through WW2, it would be kind of cool if naming could be set up so that there could be different types of names based on different classes of the same warship type. Example: you could have one series of corvettes named after flowers and another series of corvettes named after birds or whatever else OR if you want an "A" class ship with all names starting with "A" and then a "B" class and so on. This is something I've wanted since I first started playing the game. |
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Post by rob06waves2018 on Feb 18, 2019 11:45:48 GMT -6
The other thing that happens in real life is when the ship class name is not a name of a ship in the class but the category. For example, the City class (future Royal Navy Type 26 frigate class, for those who may be interested) will have HMS Glasgow, HMS Edinburgh etc. but no HMS City. That would be great in RTW2 if possible. I do it in RTW anyway by naming ships individually but any automation would be much appreciated. Due to the effort, I generally only do this for dreadnoughts or battlecruisers.
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Post by garychildress on Feb 18, 2019 18:39:14 GMT -6
The other thing that happens in real life is when the ship class name is not a name of a ship in the class but the category. For example, the City class (future Royal Navy Type 26 frigate class, for those who may be interested) will have HMS Glasgow, HMS Edinburgh etc. but no HMS City. That would be great in RTW2 if possible. I do it in RTW anyway by naming ships individually but any automation would be much appreciated. Due to the effort, I generally only do this for dreadnoughts or battlecruisers. Good point, the RN "County Class" cruisers during WW2 would be another obvious example... |
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