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Post by snwh on May 16, 2019 20:44:34 GMT -6
Anyone have fun ideas for ship classes they want to try and make? whether or not you know if its possible yet?
Personally I'm really excited to make a town-esque light cruiser. With four triple or quad turrets. Either 5" or 6" DP, I have a feeling that 5" would be better for dual purpose, and helps offset the weight, but might be a bit anemic when dealing with other light cruisers. Opinions? I think that would make for an excellent AA escort, though I don't know what time period it would be possible to make, nor do I know if you can have dual purpose triple/quads.
Other features I would love on it are, obviously a floatplane and catapult. it probably doesn't need a great torpedo load though, so that's probably one area where I can cut corners a bit. I'll probably also leave out mining capability and ASW, since it's a fleet cruiser. I'll make a specific cruiser for trade protection.
Love to hear thoughts. and even more so, I'd love to hear the specifics of some ships you guys are planning. Turret layouts, plane compliments. armor schemes, planned tonnage saving techniques, etc. (Definitely not so I can steal them :3)whether or not you know if they're actually viable yet.
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Post by bry7x7x7 on May 16, 2019 21:01:59 GMT -6
Big Battleships, Big Carriers.
Just push that new 90k tonne limit and 20 Inch guns
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Post by Awesome on May 16, 2019 21:10:54 GMT -6
I'm planning on building some of those battleship carrier hybrids
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Post by buttons on May 16, 2019 21:25:14 GMT -6
I would love to coat a battleship in as many small guns as possible. 4x2 main guns and shove as many secondary, tertiary, and AAA guns on it as I physically can.
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Post by halseyincarnate on May 16, 2019 21:47:50 GMT -6
I'm looking to try and Atlanta style AA cruiser and see if it actually works in the game.
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Post by snwh on May 16, 2019 22:26:18 GMT -6
I'm looking to try and Atlanta style AA cruiser and see if it actually works in the game. I have a feeling it might be pretty decent. I forget, what was the layout of the atlanta? Not at my comp right now |
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Post by gildeddawn on May 16, 2019 22:29:30 GMT -6
I'm looking to try and Atlanta style AA cruiser and see if it actually works in the game. I have a feeling it might be pretty decent. I forget, what was the layout of the atlanta? Not at my comp right now 8x2 127mm (5 inch). 6 turrets on the centerline and one on each side of the superstructure. |
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Post by bubby on May 16, 2019 22:31:20 GMT -6
Interestingly enough, from the fleet exercises that i've run in the Beta, my CVL's have actually consistently outperformed their larger cousins (couldn't resist editing my savegame).
I'm looking forward to fine-tuning the most efficient and effective light carrier fleet possible.
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Post by snwh on May 16, 2019 23:34:08 GMT -6
I have a feeling it might be pretty decent. I forget, what was the layout of the atlanta? Not at my comp right now 8x2 127mm (5 inch). 6 turrets on the centerline and one on each side of the superstructure. huh, interesting config. Honestly I usually don't put wing turrets on ships, once I have superfiring. But it might be an interesting thing to try at some point. I can see how it'd be a rather effective AA cruiser tho, which is probably going to be a very important component to most fleets. Interestingly enough, from the fleet exercises that i've run in the Beta, my CVL's have actually consistently outperformed their larger cousins (couldn't resist editing my savegame). I'm looking forward to fine-tuning the most efficient and effective light carrier fleet possible. huh, thats really interesting. I wonder why that is? I was honestly expecting to not have too much work for my CVL's, outside maybe trade protection later on, but maybe I need to rethink that assumption. |
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Post by buttons on May 16, 2019 23:45:53 GMT -6
8x2 127mm (5 inch). 6 turrets on the centerline and one on each side of the superstructure. huh, interesting config. Honestly I usually don't put wing turrets on ships, once I have superfiring. But it might be an interesting thing to try at some point. I can see how it'd be a rather effective AA cruiser tho, which is probably going to be a very important component to most fleets. I like forward and side guns on my "hunter" BCs. 2x4 guns superfiring and 2x2 guns with one turret on each wing, bridge and superstructure in the aft. Chase down enemy fast ships and sink them quickly with a 12 gun volley from the front. |
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Post by snwh on May 16, 2019 23:48:23 GMT -6
wew, thats a lot of forward firing guns. Usually my BC's and BB's are only six forward firing guns, with a total between 9-12
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Post by victormagnus on May 17, 2019 0:11:42 GMT -6
Well, since you ask... Also, did someone say "IJN BB->CV conversions"? Attachments:
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Post by bubby on May 17, 2019 0:14:49 GMT -6
Interestingly enough, from the fleet exercises that i've run in the Beta, my CVL's have actually consistently outperformed their larger cousins (couldn't resist editing my savegame). I'm looking forward to fine-tuning the most efficient and effective light carrier fleet possible. huh, thats really interesting. I wonder why that is? I was honestly expecting to not have too much work for my CVL's, outside maybe trade protection later on, but maybe I need to rethink that assumption. I think there's a technological threshold where CVL's are just about the right size to capitalize on the technology of the time, whereas CV's can only be so large without other relevant tech. This results in a situation where CVL's are capped at a 34 aircraft compliment, usually consisting of 1 Fighter Squadron and 3 Torpedo Squadrons, and CV's are anywhere between 34-56 Aircraft (for a time until other tech is applied) and this usually results in an air wing of 2 Fighter and 3 Torpedo Squadrons.
This means the CVL and CV have relatively comparable strike-packages, although a very noticeable difference in CAP and escort capability. It seems in practice, however, that the CVL just outclasses CV's in direct naval confrontations if they're on equal terms. It's the strangest thing.
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Post by snwh on May 17, 2019 0:32:50 GMT -6
Well, since you ask... Also, did someone say "IJN BB->CV conversions"? that is both hilarious and amazing also, thats some pretty great speculation ont he CVL's, I really am gonna have to look deeper into it my first few games. I promised myself that I'd try out interesting designs and ideas when I thought of them. And using CVL's instead of CV's for a period of time, I think counts |
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Post by wknehring on May 17, 2019 2:51:22 GMT -6
There are several designs I want to try out: 1) Pocketbattleships- in RTW1 they were garbage because they were matched against other bigger BCs. As raiders they did nearly nothing in my playthroughs (perhaps a hand full of merchant ships sunk). But now you have the choice of a cheap vessel, that can force the enemy to take some fast BB or BC into trade protection, but is stronger than the coming 10 minutes cruisers. 2) Some Tone-Style CA. Capable of carrying 6-10 seaplanes with a smaller bombload, capable of ASW or dealing with bombardement targets or even as the ultimate recon unit in a cruiser group without CVL support. 3) As said- some Atlanta or Dido-Class style as CL-AA or destroyer leader. Later I try out some Worcester-Style CL-AA. If I use 4" or 5" I don´t know at the moment. I try out different designs. The endgame design (Worcester) will have 6"- that´s for sure! 4) I will try out, if there is a possibility to convert my early battleline pre-dreads in some auxiliar CV for ASW/trade protection. Could be funny in the end. I think about that, because there is no way to convert merchant ships into CVE and converting prebuilt AV into CVE seems to expensive and time-intensive. 5) Some Kriegsmarine-Style AA-batteries conversion using my old legacy CL and putting them into trade protection. I think about lots of 4" DP guns and some smaller AA. 6) The ultimative Super-BB with 20" boomsticks, a lot of iron skin and 30 knots of speed. Maybe this crazy Austrian guy with his funny mustache gets his super BB for the German Navy  |
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