Warspite
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Post by Warspite on May 17, 2019 18:22:20 GMT -6
I will play as France. By early defeating of Russia (and maybe even Japan), I may be rich and powerful enough to beat Germans and then just win some wars to prepare for the grand war with Great Britain. Vive la France.
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Post by achanos on May 17, 2019 18:26:48 GMT -6
Austria Hungary. 1900 start, with short ranged, heavily armored Battleships to start and pocket BB cruisers (10"+ gun armed CA). Main target will be Italy, and once aircraft show up, lots of land based naval bombers supplemented by some massed carriers. I think AH is going to be a tough nut to crack, they are great on the defense already, add in airstrike capability and the Adriatic is going to be VERY dangerous.
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Post by ninjapacman on May 17, 2019 18:28:54 GMT -6
That's an interesting take on the strategic situation facing that country. Most of my games in RTW 1 where I did well were played as Germany. Well, Germany is a great nation with good armor and guns, which have made for me quite some excellent battleships and battlecruisers. They're relatively strong for one of the middle nations, but the proximity to France and Britain can lead to some challenging gameplay, so it's not all smooth sailing. I have actually used the colonial expansion strategy successfully in RTW 1, and I actually happened to get both Britain and France as allies, despite the fact that my favorite battle in that file was an engagement off Heligoland where I engaged in a Jutland style Decisive battleship action with France.[/quote]
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Post by skyhawk on May 17, 2019 18:29:30 GMT -6
I'm curious, what do you think of making dedicated DE's? My logic is that, while KE's and AMC's can be made pretty quickly since they get scrapped after the war, its good to have a stock of ASW ships right from the onset. especially since they would have minesweeping and ASW capabilities. KE can be made on a more permanent basis as long as they're 600t+. Actual DE though, with a single multi-tube torp launcher, but more focused on ASW is something I do want to try yeah. I'll keep the minesweeper production to wartime sub-600t vessels though since it takes a while for minefields to build up where as subs are a danger from day one.
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Post by Warspite on May 17, 2019 18:32:06 GMT -6
Austria Hungary. 1900 start, with short ranged, heavily armored Battleships to start and pocket BB cruisers (10"+ gun armed CA). Main target will be Italy, and once aircraft show up, lots of land based naval bombers supplemented by some massed carriers. I think AH is going to be a tough nut to crack, they are great on the defense already, add in airstrike capability and the Adriatic is going to be VERY dangerous. I really enjoy playing AH in RTW 1. Italy is your nemesis and for most of the games all I was concerned with was what the Italians were doing in terms of shipbuilding.
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Post by snwh on May 17, 2019 18:33:25 GMT -6
huh, I didn't realize that you could keep KE of greater than 600 tons. Thats great to know. I might not actually make a DE then.
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Post by Warspite on May 17, 2019 18:36:26 GMT -6
That's an interesting take on the strategic situation facing that country. Most of my games in RTW 1 where I did well were played as Germany. Well, Germany is a great nation with good armor and guns, which have made for me quite some excellent battleships and battlecruisers. They're relatively strong for one of the middle nations, but the proximity to France and Britain can lead to some challenging gameplay, so it's not all smooth sailing. I have actually used the colonial expansion strategy successfully in RTW 1, and I actually happened to get both Britain and France as allies, despite the fact that my favorite battle in that file was an engagement off Heligoland where I engaged in a Jutland style Decisive battleship action with France. I remember a RTW 1 game as Germany where the Med was a German pond. I also took Gibraltar off the British. The French and Italians constantly declared war on me and I kicked their asses every time and took their Med possessions as reparations along with a few ships. Good times.
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Post by achanos on May 17, 2019 18:37:54 GMT -6
Austria Hungary. 1900 start, with short ranged, heavily armored Battleships to start and pocket BB cruisers (10"+ gun armed CA). Main target will be Italy, and once aircraft show up, lots of land based naval bombers supplemented by some massed carriers. I think AH is going to be a tough nut to crack, they are great on the defense already, add in airstrike capability and the Adriatic is going to be VERY dangerous. I really enjoy playing AH in RTW 1. Italy is your nemesis and for most of the games all I was concerned with was what the Italians were doing in terms of shipbuilding. I have had some really fun games as AH. Once you get the upper hand on Italy, it can be really interesting to see where you can go. My most successful game had AH colonies in North Africa (taken from Italy) and a couple of colonies picked up from France. Fighting France was a bit dicey, but I got lucky and my ally at the time, the US, handed the French a couple of handy defeats that tied up several of their BB's in repair. Gave me local superiority in the Med, and that was all she wrote!
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Post by dougphresh on May 17, 2019 18:44:08 GMT -6
huh, I didn't realize that you could keep KE of greater than 600 tons. Thats great to know. I might not actually make a DE then. I remember building 1500 ton MS with 2 in armour throughout that were the terrors of DDs and CLs in my RTW games.
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Post by Warspite on May 17, 2019 18:47:55 GMT -6
I really enjoy playing AH in RTW 1. Italy is your nemesis and for most of the games all I was concerned with was what the Italians were doing in terms of shipbuilding. I have had some really fun games as AH. Once you get the upper hand on Italy, it can be really interesting to see where you can go. My most successful game had AH colonies in North Africa (taken from Italy) and a couple of colonies picked up from France. Fighting France was a bit dicey, but I got lucky and my ally at the time, the US, handed the French a couple of handy defeats that tied up several of their BB's in repair. Gave me local superiority in the Med, and that was all she wrote! Nice, These RTW games are just great for making up your own 'stories' and epic history. From a near run cruiser skirmish to a decisive battle fleet confrontation which decides the fate of empires these small (in terms of megabytes) PC games pack in an eternity of history from heroic defeats to glorious, gut-wrenching pyrrhic victories. These RTW games reallly are fantastic.
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Post by skyhawk on May 17, 2019 19:21:02 GMT -6
huh, I didn't realize that you could keep KE of greater than 600 tons. Thats great to know. I might not actually make a DE then. I remember building 1500 ton MS with 2 in armour throughout that were the terrors of DDs and CLs in my RTW games. I've done similar but i've never gotten any of them into combat.
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Post by snwh on May 17, 2019 20:08:53 GMT -6
hmmm, refining my early strategy a bit. I've been looking at basing numbers. and it would seem that france really is the best first target. Considering GB outbases me in both SE asia 370 vs 119, and more obviously in the indian ocean 10 vs 225. Attacking france lets me get quite a few bases in SE asia, which should be fairly useful, but more importantly they have multiple holdings in the indian ocean, which means I could build up a decent fleet cap much quicker, than say if I attacked italy and only got one colony.
GB is still going to be a problem obviously, thanks to them having such a massive budget. maybe if I can rope in an ally? I don't really need to take burma until around say, 1915-1920. Around when oil firing becomes really relevant
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Post by Warspite on May 17, 2019 20:19:03 GMT -6
hmmm, refining my early strategy a bit. I've been looking at basing numbers. and it would seem that france really is the best first target. Considering GB outbases me in both SE asia 370 vs 119, and more obviously in the indian ocean 10 vs 225. Attacking france lets me get quite a few bases in SE asia, which should be fairly useful, but more importantly they have multiple holdings in the indian ocean, which means I could build up a decent fleet cap much quicker, than say if I attacked italy and only got one colony. GB is still going to be a problem obviously, thanks to them having such a massive budget. maybe if I can rope in an ally? I don't really need to take burma until around say, 1915-1920. Around when oil firing becomes really relevant I like your analysis. I hereby appoint you my Naval Strategy consigliere. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpfj3I18Eic
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Post by mycophobia on May 17, 2019 20:19:40 GMT -6
Gonna use France to experiment with all-forward BB with quad turret+ large capacity of bomb equipped sea planes at rear ( if sea plane cap is a thing that will be even better)
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Post by Warspite on May 17, 2019 20:27:09 GMT -6
Gonna use France to experiment with all-forward BB with quad turret+ large capacity of bomb equipped sea planes at rear ( if sea plane cap is a thing that will be even better) That is a bold strategy. Bon chance.Good luck.
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