Player baffled by technology

[revillag]

I a trying to understand how technology advancement works.
If your scientists are baffled by a specific technology, what happens?  Does that tech get skipped?  
If a technology gets skipped, do you get the effects at the next tech level?  For example, if a tech that gives you 1% weigh reduction gets shipped, and the next one is also a 1% weight reduction, do you get a total of 1% or 2%?

[bcoopactual]

Aug 6, 2019 18:16:29 GMT -6 revillag said:

I a trying to understand how technology advancement works.
If your scientists are baffled by a specific technology, what happens?  Does that tech get skipped?  
If a technology gets skipped, do you get the effects at the next tech level?  For example, if a tech that gives you 1% weigh reduction gets shipped, and the next one is also a 1% weight reduction, do you get a total of 1% or 2%?

If the "baffled by" or "hit a dead end" events fire you lose a portion of the research points already collected in that research area.  So effectively you are set back by a number of turns but you continue to research that tech.

If you skip a tech you don't get it when the next advancement is reached unless it's superseded by the next tech like 3-centerline turrets, 4-centerline turrets and 5(+)-centerline turrets.  If you skipped three and researched four obviously you could design a ship with only three centerline turrets if you wanted to.

There is a chance after every subsequent tech researched in that area that you will go back and research a previously skipped tech so most of the techs will eventually be researched by the end of the game.  There is always the chance that another nation will sell it to you or you could steal it as well.    

[dorn]

In RTW1 you Loose RP generated that month. But it could be different in RTW2.

[revillag]

Aug 6, 2019 18:58:14 GMT -6 bcoopactual said:

Aug 6, 2019 18:16:29 GMT -6 revillag said:

I a trying to understand how technology advancement works.
If your scientists are baffled by a specific technology, what happens?  Does that tech get skipped?  
If a technology gets skipped, do you get the effects at the next tech level?  For example, if a tech that gives you 1% weigh reduction gets shipped, and the next one is also a 1% weight reduction, do you get a total of 1% or 2%?

If the "baffled by" or "hit a dead end" events fire you lose a portion of the research points already collected in that research area.  So effectively you are set back by a number of turns but you continue to research that tech.

If you skip a tech you don't get it when the next advancement is reached unless it's superseded by the next tech like 3-centerline turrets, 4-centerline turrets and 5(+)-centerline turrets.  If you skipped three and researched four obviously you could design a ship with only three centerline turrets if you wanted to.

There is a chance after every subsequent tech researched in that area that you will go back and research a previously skipped tech so most of the techs will eventually be researched by the end of the game.  There is always the chance that another nation will sell it to you or you could steal it as well.    

Thanks for the explanation.  Is there any message that tells you when a tech is skipped?

[bcoopactual]

Aug 7, 2019 4:32:37 GMT -6 revillag said:

Thanks for the explanation.  Is there any message that tells you when a tech is skipped?

No.  If you get a "baffled by", "dead-end" or "close to mastering" event it will tell you what tech you are actually researching and if you are familiar with the tech tree you could figure it out that way but in general, you figure it out either when you know you've gone well past where you expected to research something (either by the game year or by notices that other nations have completed the tech) or when you complete a research item farther down the tree that you weren't expected.  For example, if it's 1907 and I haven't researched 700 ton DD's (a 1906 tech) then it's pretty certain that I've skipped that tech since there is a big gap time-wise between 600 ton DD (1901) and 700 ton DD (1906).  It can be frustrating but it makes the research system much more interesting than the one in say the Civilization series where you know exactly what order everything is going to be researched in.  

If it gets to the point where it's really annoying you, you can use a text editor to look at the research area in the gamesave file after you have saved the game following completing a research tech.  The gamesave file has an entry for each research area telling you what level tech you are actually researching at that time.   

[dorn]

I checked my files. "Baffled" means you loose RP this month.

I have no hit ad dead end during 6 years of testing.