Ship Rebuild Question

[goldeneye55]

For some reason sometimes after I rebuild a ship, I can build that model of rebuild.  But for some other rebuilds they don't appear in the list to build and I have to build the original model and then rebuild it once it is complete.  Is there a reason as to why sometimes you can build the new rebuild or not?

[JagdFlanker]

from my experience you are never allowed to build a rebuild unless you create a rebuild during the initial first turn when you are creating your legacy fleet - for example if building your legacy fleet you build a ship in a foreign dock and immediately rebuild it in your own docks, you will be able to build that ship in your own docks when the game starts

[bcoopactual]

Aug 9, 2019 18:00:43 GMT -6 goldeneye55 said:

For some reason sometimes after I rebuild a ship, I can build that model of rebuild.  But for some other rebuilds they don't appear in the list to build and I have to build the original model and then rebuild it once it is complete.  Is there a reason as to why sometimes you can build the new rebuild or not?

I created a new USA 1920 start game (ver. 1.07) with no treaties active including Versaille and opened the rebuild menu for a 1915 battleship.  Rebuilt the machinery, raised the speed one knot and reduced the turret armor by .5 inches to compensate for the added weight and added Improved director fire control.  It allowed me to save the design and rebuild that particular ship but I couldn't build any new construction ships to that (R 1920) design.  It doesn't even show up in the menu as an available class with or without the check mark for old designs.  I verified the refit design ship file exists in the gamesave folder and the game will allow me to rebuild other original ships of the same class to the refit design I just can't build new construction of that refit design.  So I think I verified what you are describing.  

[Edit - I think it's the design development mechanic that was implemented for RTW2.  It's possible that it inadvertently wasn't setup to accommodate refit designs as new construction or there was some conflict that the developers didn't have the time to work out so they removed the ability to create new construction from a refit design.  Or if the problem is intermittent (because it hasn't been for me yet) then it might still be a bug.]  

[jwsmith26]

The ability to build rebuilt ship designs seems pretty random at this point. In the attached image you can see that I have two rebuilt capital ships that I can build - BC Goeben (R 1912) and BB Preussen (R 1923). You'll also notice that the original version of each ship can also be built. It is currently 1936 in this game and both of these ships have undergone more recent rebuilds, but these more recent versions are not available to build.

It's worth noting that most of the ships in this list have been rebuilt at some point but almost none of the rebuilt versions are available to build.

I'll mention this in the testers forum and see if we can get either an explanation if this is WAD or a fix if this is a bug.

[dorn]

I think that you can certainly build rebuilt ship that was rebuilt automatically adding newest fire control.

I have never been able to build refitted ship which I refitted myself.

[chaosblade]

I did noted one issue with the US, CVs of the same name class as a BC do have in the rebuild list the BC rebuilds

[goldeneye55]

Aug 10, 2019 10:55:43 GMT -6 jwsmith26 said:

The ability to build rebuilt ship designs seems pretty random at this point. In the attached image you can see that I have two rebuilt capital ships that I can build - BC Goeben (R 1912) and BB Preussen (R 1923). You'll also notice that the original version of each ship can also be built. It is currently 1936 in this game and both of these ships have undergone more recent rebuilds, but these more recent versions are not available to build.

It's worth noting that most of the ships in this list have been rebuilt at some point but almost none of the rebuilt versions are available to build.

I'll mention this in the testers forum and see if we can get either an explanation if this is WAD or a fix if this is a bug.

This is what I have been experiencing as well.  If I remember correctly in the original RTW you could always build the rebuilt versions.  It would make sense, why would a country build a ship, then rebuild it right away if they already had the rebuild plans at the start.