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Post by director on May 10, 2017 23:43:00 GMT -6
Okay... I want to know how many subs you were building each turn and how many you actually had in your fleet.
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Post by bcoopactual on May 11, 2017 7:08:36 GMT -6
At the turn of the new year 1935, World War Japan was ended with the stroke of a pen after 70 months of unrestricted submarine warfare on a scale never before seen. What began as a simple war between the Empires of Japan and Russia over Japanese-owned Sakhalin soon drew in Germany and the United States when Japanese submarines repeatedly sank innocent passenger liners while destroying Russian merchant shipping. The Imperial Japanese Army was eager and capable of invading the Philippines, denying the US Navy's formidable battle-line a home port in Southeast Asia. Russia was forced into a compromise peace, and the submarine war against Germany and America intensified until England, France, and Italy joined the fight also in outrage over passenger liner sinkings. Reluctant to directly engage the battle-proven Imperial Japanese Navy and be punished the way the Russians were, all nations held their capital ships back, and engaged in a war of dueling minesweepers and submarines, with the occasional heavy raider cruiser. Even mighty Britain was forced to take a compromise peace before the rest of their co-belligerents, perhaps memories of their past loss to Japan made England's protesting peoples weary of another war. With 9 Unrest and mutinies in the fleet, I advised my government to accept the white peace that the world coalition offered. Yep but now absolutely no one is going to want to buy Toyota's from you.
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Post by klavohunter on May 11, 2017 8:16:03 GMT -6
Okay... I want to know how many subs you were building each turn and how many you actually had in your fleet. I had between 90 and 140 subs in commission and under construction for pretty much all of the war. I saw all the AI nations making significant number of minesweepers, at least 60 per nation. I do not remember precise numbers of enemy subs, but they were not insignificant, they sank two of my Dreadnoughts.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 8:50:27 GMT -6
Reluctant to directly engage the battle-proven Imperial Japanese Navy and be punished the way the Russians were, all nations held their capital ships back, and engaged in a war of dueling minesweepers and submarines, with the occasional heavy raider cruiser. i think this is also a very Japan thing. it is too far from everybody else to engage in large surface battles, so the most direct way to win wars is thru subs and raider warfare. i consider this rather.. boring, for me anyway who enjoys surface actions. although i'd say a world war on the strategic side certainly is interesting in your case!... now i'd thought of a solution. use subs to collapse Britain or Russia, and use the 10 possession points to take a 10 point colony in NEurope - Ireland/Finland/Baltic (East prussia is 12 points iirc). this would give me a foothold into the powder-keg where most of the action is. But then it'd take three turns to move the fleet onto station, plus i quite dislike the North Sea weather. in the end i saw little point:|
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Post by boomboomf22 on May 11, 2017 9:01:39 GMT -6
Yes we hates north sea weather we does precious. Endless battles at night or in poaring rain, when the only choice is to risk torps or not engage at all. We hates them we does.
Kinda like the Adriatic for director in his Byzantine AAR
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Post by director on May 11, 2017 20:51:26 GMT -6
boomboomf22 - you mean the coast of Damnatia? LOL I always thought the chance of getting bad weather depended at least in part on whether or not your opponent took night-training.
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Post by callum on May 12, 2017 12:21:06 GMT -6
I have a game where all the of AIs have decided that heavy cruisers are not worthwhile building and so I am the only one with any in service. It might probably due to their propensity to be sunk by my heavy cruisers and a desire to maintain BB and BC numbers with a player, USA and Germany in a arms race.
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Post by bcoopactual on May 12, 2017 12:35:16 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum. What year is it in your game? It's not unusual for me to see the AI start scrapping their old battleships (B's) and armored cruisers (CA's) around 1914 or so once they have a number of dreadnoughts (BB's) and battlecruisers (BC's) available to take their place assuming there isn't a war going on or they aren't reacting to the player building a significant number of new armored cruisers. You'll see notes in the message window at the start of a turn just like you do when they lay down a keel or commission a ship.
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Post by boomboomf22 on May 12, 2017 13:32:11 GMT -6
boomboomf22 - you mean the coast of Damnatia? LOL I always thought the chance of getting bad weather depended at least in part on whether or not your opponent took night-training. yep, exactly what I meant. Dunno about night-training, but the north sea has incredibly bad weather. It is massively irritating the need a fleet battle to break a blockade, but have it throw night and bad weather at you turn after turn, especially fighting GB where it is fatal to accept night battles due to their superior #s of light forces with torps.
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Post by Noname117 on May 12, 2017 15:34:21 GMT -6
Was just playing a game as Great Britain and I had Japan go to war with me. They surprise-invaded the North-East Asian territory I had taken from the Germans while simultaneously launching an attack at my colonial armored cruiser and light cruiser in the territory I had owned from the start of the game. This is the first time I've had to fight a surprise attack battle in Rule The Waves.
So the Japanese destroyer force, arriving in the dead of night, is spotted a few turns in by my 2 aging cruisers. Since they were surprised and still raising steam they were just sitting ducks for torpedoes, which I knew were coming for the ships and would likely sink them.
And just like that I received a torpedo hit message.
"Unidentified ship has been struck by a torpedo"
The Japanese had just managed to torpedo one of their own destroyers.
The next several minutes were spent anxiously waiting for my ships to get moving, while contacts were spotted to vanish into the night soon afterward.
Pretty soon another Japanese destroyer appeared heavily damaged, and then another was sinking. They still hadn't managed to torpedo either of my ships.
My ships got underway and continued to engage the destroyers, because my ships were winning the fight and needed to keep turning to avoid torpedoes. Pretty soon 4 Japanese destroyers had sunk. I believe it was shortly after this, or maybe after sinking another destroyer, that the Japanese fleet showed itself, and I got my cruisers the heck out of there. They had sunk 6 Japanese destroyers at this point and managed to make a clean getaway while the Japanese fleet sank a transport.
To add insult to injury I do think a submarine or a mine sank another Japanese destroyer, basically meaning that their surprise attack had resulted in the destruction of 7 of their destroyers for sinking a single transport ship.
And as to how the rest of the war went? Japan started the war with 1 BB, 1 BC (Later got a second), and 5 Bs. I, as Britain, had 5 BBs (built 1 during the war), 3 BCs (built 1 or 2 during the war), and 25 Bs (I had 30, but 5 of them were colonial ships). Japan had to bear the full force of the Grand Fleet. It did not end well for them (I took all their colonies and they have a nice new government set up now).
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Post by babylon218 on May 12, 2017 17:01:32 GMT -6
Was just playing a game as Great Britain and I had Japan go to war with me. They surprise-invaded the North-East Asian territory I had taken from the Germans while simultaneously launching an attack at my colonial armored cruiser and light cruiser in the territory I had owned from the start of the game. This is the first time I've had to fight a surprise attack battle in Rule The Waves. So the Japanese destroyer force, arriving in the dead of night, is spotted a few turns in by my 2 aging cruisers. Since they were surprised and still raising steam they were just sitting ducks for torpedoes, which I knew were coming for the ships and would likely sink them. And just like that I received a torpedo hit message. "Unidentified ship has been struck by a torpedo" The Japanese had just managed to torpedo one of their own destroyers. The next several minutes were spent anxiously waiting for my ships to get moving, while contacts were spotted to vanish into the night soon afterward. Pretty soon another Japanese destroyer appeared heavily damaged, and then another was sinking. They still hadn't managed to torpedo either of my ships. My ships got underway and continued to engage the destroyers, because my ships were winning the fight and needed to keep turning to avoid torpedoes. Pretty soon 4 Japanese destroyers had sunk. I believe it was shortly after this, or maybe after sinking another destroyer, that the Japanese fleet showed itself, and I got my cruisers the heck out of there. They had sunk 6 Japanese destroyers at this point and managed to make a clean getaway while the Japanese fleet sank a transport. To add insult to injury I do think a submarine or a mine sank another Japanese destroyer, basically meaning that their surprise attack had resulted in the destruction of 7 of their destroyers for sinking a single transport ship. And as to how the rest of the war went? Japan started the war with 1 BB, 1 BC (Later got a second), and 5 Bs. I, as Britain, had 5 BBs (built 1 during the war), 3 BCs (built 1 or 2 during the war), and 25 Bs (I had 30, but 5 of them were colonial ships). Japan had to bear the full force of the Grand Fleet. It did not end well for them (I took all their colonies and they have a nice new government set up now). Ouch... Now that's funny! I had one instance where (I think I was playing GB) Japan attempted to surprise two of my CAs at harbour. Before their destroyers even showed up, my cruisers had made up steam and had 'bravely' positioned themselves 'defending' the berths of the next naval base over. Sod courage! I need to keep the seas contested until the navy arrives!
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Post by garrisonchisholm on May 12, 2017 23:35:17 GMT -6
... It did not end well for them (I took all their colonies and they have a nice new government set up now). Awww! That' so nice of you! I bet its a shiny and fine government, with oddly generous export laws. ^.^
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Post by garrisonchisholm on May 12, 2017 23:36:19 GMT -6
Yes we hates north sea weather we does precious. Endless battles at night or in poaring rain, when the only choice is to risk torps or not engage at all. We hates them we does. All kinds of mad props for this. Made my day.
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Post by boomboomf22 on May 13, 2017 1:26:49 GMT -6
Yes we hates north sea weather we does precious. Endless battles at night or in poaring rain, when the only choice is to risk torps or not engage at all. We hates them we does. All kinds of mad props for this. Made my day. You mean my golem speach? Why thank you good sir
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Post by director on May 13, 2017 7:59:57 GMT -6
Ah-ah-ah! Mustn't confuse the clay-statue-imbued-with-life-by-holy-scroll-in-skull with creature-twisted-by-power-of-One-Ring-precious. There are golems, and there is a Gollum, and they are different.
Unless of course one fashioned a Gollum golem. Or... put the One Ring in the golem with... Or maybe removed the Gollum brain and replaced it with...
I'm going back to bed now and its all your fault. LOL
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