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Post by garrisonchisholm on Nov 8, 2018 17:12:10 GMT -6
Ok, no pictures for this one, but its one for the record books. 1904. An enemy 'B' has just been brought to a halt, burning and hit by a torpedo. It is very probably sinking already, so I take off Flotilla Attack orders and stand clear with my 5 B's and head for home. Well, a flotilla of 3 DD's decides they're going to make one more pass. They are sailing at high speed, essentially in echelon as they arc around the mortally wounded foe. The Lead DD and 2nd DD each fire 1 torpedo- ...which smack dead into the 2nd DD and the 3rd DD. Believe it or not, one of them survived, but the only DD that was undamaged was the leader; who then had the cheek, rather than commencing the collection of survivors, to circle around and send 2 more fish through waters teaming with survivors to hit the sinking B. Les sigh. Ze game, it is France.
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Post by director on Nov 8, 2018 20:48:33 GMT -6
Clouseau lives!
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Post by cv10 on Nov 8, 2018 21:08:09 GMT -6
Must be that notion of "Egalite" kicking in: if an enemy B is to be torpedoed, a French ship must be torpedoed as well!
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Post by aeson on Nov 8, 2018 21:27:28 GMT -6
In the May-June 1903 interturn, the Naval Secretary of the Soviet Union demanded the construction of three additional battleships, so the Navy laid down three new semidreadnought battleships in October 1903. November 1903 comes around, and the Navy is praised for ordering the requested battleships ... and the Bureau of Construction decides that a third main battery turret is feasible. What does the Naval Secretary have to say when the Navy asks if it can re-order its new battleships to an improved design? "You cannot cancel ships under construction at this time." Sigh... All I want is a third 12" turret; it'll only increase the cost of the ship by about 10%.
Ah, well; it's early yet for dreadnoughts, though Britain's apparently already building a battlecruiser...
Edit: We're fine here. Everything's fine. No problems at all. We're moving at 1 knot because, err, we want to move at 1 knot ... Yes, that's it... Definitely no battle damage slowing us down... Yep... Completely fine.
Edit 2: Hmm... I think I might possibly have violated Swedish territorial waters... Then again, it looks like the French probably did, too.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Nov 13, 2018 19:39:49 GMT -6
I have a new 1900 start, and decided to play Austria. I let the AI build the legacy fleet, and hey! No single-turret ships! That's a stroke of luck. So, rolled off a few months, and then in May, an intelligence report on the Italians; ...that Has to be an Austrian prize seized in like 1892. No self-respecting Italian yard would build that.
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Post by AiryW on Nov 13, 2018 20:44:39 GMT -6
That's what happens when you run out of boilers so start welding armor to the side to use up your displacement.
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Post by boomboomf22 on Nov 14, 2018 2:26:16 GMT -6
It looks like the AI is making predreads out of armored cruisers again.
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Post by dorn on Nov 14, 2018 3:16:21 GMT -6
I do not think it is completely bad ship.
But I prefer and sometimes build a ship with around 10,000 tons with 2x2x10" guns, only 6" secondary guns and a little more belt and turret armor but only with 1" deck armor. The most issue of the AI ship is her weak armor for secondary guns. With her speed she can hold out of dangerous zone from 12" guns for the first 5 years.
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Post by aeson on Dec 1, 2018 7:59:27 GMT -6
The Italian economy, or at least the Italian shipbuilding industry, must be booming. It's March 1903 and they've already built two battleships for Japan and one for Germany, and are building another three battleships for Germany and six battleships for the United States, in addition to seven battleships completed and four under construction for their own navy.
I'm half-tempted to pick a fight with Italy to see if the computer'll bankrupt itself seizing nine foreign battleships, but tensions with Italy are only at 4 and they're on the other side of the world anyways.
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Post by dorn on Dec 1, 2018 10:04:55 GMT -6
The Italian economy, or at least the Italian shipbuilding industry, must be booming. It's March 1903 and they've already built two battleships for Japan and one for Germany, and are building another three battleships for Germany and six battleships for the United States, in addition to seven battleships completed and four under construction for their own navy.
I'm half-tempted to pick a fight with Italy to see if the computer'll bankrupt itself seizing nine foreign battleships, but tensions with Italy are only at 4 and they're on the other side of the world anyways.
I am quite interested to know what secrets Italians have. They are the weakest nation from basic list falling behind quite quickly.
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Post by aeson on Dec 1, 2018 13:50:08 GMT -6
No idea what the Italian secret to attracting battleship orders in this game is, but the US ultimately ordered 8 North Carolina-class battleships from Italian shipyards, so in a somewhat-amusing coincidence the first, second, and third non-Italian powers that I know to have ordered Italian battleships ordered 21, 22, and 23 battleships respectively.
Also, not that it's terribly surprising since I've made alliances with Britain and Germany, but I now have more base capacity in Northern Europe than in my home waters.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Dec 2, 2018 0:17:58 GMT -6
Well nuts, there's got to be more Italian Bs in the world than English, right? That would inspire some drinking parties.
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Post by aeson on Dec 2, 2018 12:05:12 GMT -6
Well nuts, there's got to be more Italian Bs in the world than English, right? That would inspire some drinking parties. Not quite, at least at the moment (July 1905) and probably for the remainder of the game; looking at the year in service listed for each ship, it was probably also true from the beginning of the game. Going through the design files and the almanac, Britain has built or is building 35 capital ships in 16 classes while Italy has built or is building "only" 30 capital ships in 10 classes. The 35 British-built ships are three British dreadnought battleships (all under construction), 24 British predreadnoughts (one under construction), 6 Russian predreadnoughts (all completed for the legacy fleet), and 2 American predreadnoughts (all completed for the legacy fleet), while the 30 Italian-built ships are 13 Italian predreadnoughts, 5 Japanese predreadnoughts,1 4 German predreadnoughts, and 8 American predreadnoughts. Still, that makes 17 Italian-built battleships in service with or under construction for powers other than Italy and only 8 British-built battleships in service with powers other than Britain.
Somewhat ironically considering just how many battleships Italy has built this game, Italy is one of only two powers as of July 1905 not to have a dreadnought battleship, dreadnought battlecruiser, or Tsukuba-type battlecruiser under construction. The other power, naturally, is Germany, because why not when Italian battleships sell this well on the export market and the Royal Hawaiian Navy is the only power with a battlecruiser2 of any description in service for probably about the next two years?
1Japan's three Fuso-class battleships were built in Italy but were all completed for the legacy fleet, so I didn't know about it until I looked at the design files, unlike the Hizen-class battleships where one was laid down at a point where it'd show up in the turn messages. 2Not a dreadnought battlecruiser, mind you, but I'm fine with having a Tsukuba-type battlecruiser in service two to three years before any other battlecruisers hit the water.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Dec 2, 2018 18:51:13 GMT -6
I am really fascinated by this quirk of your game, given how terrible Italy's economy classically is in most games. It would be great if Italy actually profited from these overseas sales (they must have launched some very attractive sales initiatives in the 1890's, or else everyone happened to be fans of Cunniberti (spelling, lazy) in this universe). If you notice how Italy's economy progresses through this game, it would be very interesting to hear. *thumbs-up*
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Post by bcoopactual on Dec 3, 2018 1:13:24 GMT -6
I think what is was was one of the foreign admirals was given a tour by his Italian counterpart and was so jealous of the interior styling they had their government order their next ship from an Italian yard. The rest, as they say, is history because you know how quickly styling trends spread. Like fast zombies fast.
Seriously, try to find an album of the interior of one of those Italian battleships. It's everything you would expect from the stereotype.
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