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Post by wknehring on Apr 7, 2020 1:37:46 GMT -6
I play as usual Germany. It is about 1906 or so and the situation with Japan escalates to yellow. To avoid a surprise (as in the past games) I begin mobilisation partially and send some ships to NEA. I am quite sure that I will be prepared for a war in some month. I begin building 4 6 inch batteries to have a nice suprise for the Japanes if they try to attack my ships in Kiatschou. I also begin expanding the harbor However, I am again suprised by the yellow danger and the Japanes invade Kiatschou just a month before I have 4-6 Bs and other units there declaring war in this practical way. A month later I am there in full strength and win the first battle by sinking a CA and almost sinking another one. I have more battleship in NEA than Japan. Plopp .... a new message in the next month . Japan has defeated my troops in Kiatschou. They have again sacked me .... . OK , I will take bitter revenge and from RL perspective the outcome is not weird. It is in effect VERY RL. But I was VERY convinced that game mechanic should have been on my side .... . Normally, the invasion should have been defeated.
Not only they stalk you with some surprise attacks, they also do surprise landings. If you play Japan, you can switch a target on before any war. The surprise attack is something additional now. Both together can be brutal and end a war relatively quick.
In a playthrough I managed to win a war against the Russians within 5 months, sinking their Pacific Battlefleet (3 Bs and 1 CA) during the surprise attack (not said I destroyed nearly every harbour installations there), land on Port Arthur (I had North Korea) by surprise within 2 months, landing at Sachalin within 2 months and after winning the war, I took Kamtchatka, too. From zero to hero in Northeast Asia and my fingers spread to the north. And I pokered for some oil-events and luckily found some at Sachalin. Oil firing before 1920! Japan is a brutal enemy, especially if played by yourself. Unluckily I didn´t manage a Pearl Habour like suprise attack with some fleet carriers so far.
And my expeirences say, you can´t conter a Japanese suprise attack by pumping a large fleet into Tsingtao. You give them the oportunity to win even bigger, because all of your units start without steam and during night. I would suggest to station your capital ships at Southeast Asia (or were the Japaneses are weak and you can reach Northeast Asia within 1 month), and give them some DD and 1-2 CL-bait and smack them 1 month later. Even coastal batteries are not effective, because they start to hit DDs in the morning or maybe at point blank range. Here I would suggest to built a few 4" batteries and that must be enough.
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Post by wknehring on Apr 7, 2020 1:41:04 GMT -6
Me: *notices the Japanese have a very nasty looking class of 16kton, 30kt+, 10" heavy cruisers, and my existing heavy cruisers are more 8/9" CLs than actual CAs. Me: *designs a 16kton, 30kt+, 2x3 AB, 10" heavy cruiser with plenty of weight to spare, ups it to 12" guns. Me: *frets about budget for procuring these cruisers, given the number of CAs Japan built while I was beating the snot out of Germany. President: "Build me four battleships! 'Murica!". Me: "Yes sir! 'Murica!" President: *hands me budget for one unit of the BB class I've got building. Me: "Crap, I can't build 4 BBs with this, and recovering from the budget cuts after the last war wiped out my reserve funds". Me: "Wait a minute, the game classifies my new CA as a BC." Me: *orders 4 heavy cruisers, tells the president they're "midget battlecruisers". 'Murica! Me: Considers renaming the class from "Seattle" to "Ticonderoga", in honor of the real life DDG-47 CG-1.
Lucky You
Murica!
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Post by millsian on Apr 8, 2020 4:07:23 GMT -6
so I sink 6 x Italian TR and 2 x DD - losing only one of my DD in process and Italy wins the battle !!!!!!! and whats worse says I failed to achieve my objective of sinking 6 x TR :-( managed to save a screen shot and upload it - i'd have claimed a moral victory there especially as i did sink 6 x TR !
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Post by hargentannhaus on Apr 8, 2020 5:58:31 GMT -6
so I sink 6 x Italian TR and 2 x DD - losing only one of my DD in process and Italy wins the battle !!!!!!! and whats worse says I failed to achieve my objective of sinking 6 x TR :-( managed to save a screen shot and upload it - i'd have claimed a moral victory there especially as i did sink 6 x TR ! You sink 6 AUX Vessels. That not necessary 6 Trans. Perhaps 1 AMC or 1 Seaplanecarrier was under the destroyed ships.
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Post by millsian on Apr 8, 2020 6:17:09 GMT -6
managed to save a screen shot and upload it - i'd have claimed a moral victory there especially as i did sink 6 x TR ! You sink 6 AUX Vessels. That not necessary 6 Trans. Perhaps 1 AMC or 1 Seaplanecarrier was under the destroyed ships. that's a very good point there was a log report that I was firing at an AV maybe I sank it ! to be honest lost track as my DDs scythed their way through the convoy and made a run for home after getting past the escorts
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Post by dia on Apr 8, 2020 8:59:38 GMT -6
My almost at-the end Japan game has been an interesting play through to say the least. My carriers came about in the 1920s. In my two wars against Russia in the 1930s, they performed wonderfully. In my 1940s war against Germany and France though they didn't really do all that much ( see). Hell, my BC Kirishima sunk the most BCs. But Germany's aircraft were a major threat nonetheless. It's the late 1950s now in a war against Great Britain and my carriers kicked off the war by wiping out the British Pacific Squadron in Singapore. Quite to my amusement, that was the last time aircraft played a decisive part in the war. In SEA and south Pacific, land based aircraft rarely if ever show up, a nice respite to the ******** that is late game Mediterranean. So far in every engagement, CAP and AA wipe out air strikes on either side no matter how many escorts you send, though I have to admit the British have done more damage than me since they almost always outnumber my carriers. The British have lost nine carriers and five light carriers so far, all to the guns of my battlecruisers and heavy cruisers, including the BC Kirishima. I think I'm going to start replacing strike squadrons with extra fighters at this point. Too bad the AI can't figure out it needs more surface ships, not carriers. Also my God Great Britain, fix your ammo stowage, I detonated over a dozen of your ships in the past four months alone.
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Post by dia on Apr 8, 2020 15:22:59 GMT -6
This peak comedy Gold. The year is 1960. Meet the Ibuki, a Tsukuba-class proto-battlecruiser commissioned around 1905. She and her sister were designed as run of the mill Tsukuba style proto-battlecruiser. They served excellently, but eventually became very obsolete. She and her sister spent the last 30-40 years patrolling home waters, raiding or hunting raiders, or mothballed. Recently they were sent to southeast Asia where the Tsukuba herself met a mine and sunk. The Ibuki was supposed to be on trade protection when she got thrust into an unexpected convoy attack off the coast of Australia. The Ibuki and her four destroyers were hopelessly outnumbered as every convoy attack mission has been since 1900. So I told her to run. Though slower than the entire British force, they didn't chase her but there was a brief exchange of gunfire. The rest of the day was spent fighting off air attacks. One near miss ruptured hull plating. Then the battle ended and to my delight, a sunken British carrier. And people said Tsukuba style proto-battlecruisers only had a short span of usefulness.
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Post by dvohoritch on Apr 10, 2020 15:43:44 GMT -6
When I reloaded a saved scenario, I had a bug where the airship bases were placed right on top of my fleet. Which resulted in this rather strange message:
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Post by director on Apr 11, 2020 12:03:21 GMT -6
Reminds me of the old apocryphal story of the carrier and the lighthouse...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 17:49:04 GMT -6
When I reloaded a saved scenario, I had a bug where the airship bases were placed right on top of my fleet. Which resulted in this rather strange message: Reminds me of my super DD that torpedoed and sunk a coastal battery
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Apr 16, 2020 21:52:09 GMT -6
Why no sir, everything is under control, why do you ask? some months later-No, Sir, I assure you, everything is under control. *every wastebasket in the background is burning with papers and documents, men scurrying about frantically* ...You had billiards scheduled, I believe? Yes? Good, cheerio...
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Post by zardoz on Apr 17, 2020 3:31:48 GMT -6
When I reloaded a saved scenario, I had a bug where the airship bases were placed right on top of my fleet. Which resulted in this rather strange message: Reminds me of my super DD that torpedoed and sunk a coastal battery And that reminds me on that:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpEcU0OEzhc
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Post by director on Apr 17, 2020 10:47:10 GMT -6
It was clearly their fault! That airbase jumped right out in front of me - you saw it! I was just sailing along in the open ocean, minding my own business, obeying the speed limit, and - WHAM! - out of nowhere, that airbase pulled out without looking right or left! Speeding, too, had to be as fast as it was moving! I tried to avoid it - I went left, then right - but it came at me like it WANTED to hit me! I bet it did! I bet it's one of those bloodthirsty criminal homicidal airbases! Oughta be locked up, is what I think! What's the world come to when a giant battleship can't peacefully sail across the ocean without being assaulted by the land, I ask you! garrisonchisholm - do you actually seek these things out? Because, I swear, I've never seen anyone get into - and out of - the kinds of trouble you find.
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Post by dorn on Apr 17, 2020 16:23:51 GMT -6
Poor Arizona .....
21:00 Collision! B Empress of India has rammed B Arizona-class!
21:02 Enemy ship B Arizona-class is hit by a torpedo!
note: that torpedo is from Empress of India. I do not know how they do it but excellent job, captain.
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Post by garrisonchisholm on Apr 17, 2020 18:42:24 GMT -6
garrisonchisholm - do you actually seek these things out? Because, I swear, I've never seen anyone get into - and out of - the kinds of trouble you find. Well, oddly enough... I got out of it- though I was Winning at the time, so the white peace brokered by America was a bit of a disappointment. Though maybe I should count my blessings to have only lost Formosa. The government had almost collapsed, and I had troops trying to repel English invasions at both Hainan and Port Arthur. I suppose it wouldn't have taken much to lose both of those and then also give out a ton of victory colonies to the 4 powers with a complete collapse. Unfortunately it will take some building up before I try to challenge England again.
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