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Post by dorn on May 16, 2019 0:26:00 GMT -6
Quite interested when do you want to start and what nation do you choose for the first game.
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Post by wknehring on May 16, 2019 1:22:28 GMT -6
I think I will start with Japan in 1900 to have my own Legacy Fleet. The designs in the Demo are pretty garbage and it disturbes the flow of your 5 year game. And I don´t know if you can build your Legacy Fleet in 1920 too, or you get AI-generated designs.
And in case I did a few good games with some successful airraids, I will go on with Germany 1920 (Treaty of Versailles and Washington Naval Treaty) and try to build my own Jeune Ecole-Kriegsmarine.
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Post by pirateradar on May 16, 2019 1:25:46 GMT -6
I think I will start with Japan in 1900 to have my own Legacy Fleet. The designs in the Demo are pretty garbage and it disturbes the flow of your 5 year game. And I don´t know if you can build your Legacy Fleet in 1920 too, or you get AI-generated designs. And in case I did a few good games with some successful airraids, I will go on with Germany 1920 (Treaty of Versailles and Washington Naval Treaty) and try to build my own Jeune Ecole-Kriegsmarine. Fredrik has said there won't be an option for manual legacy fleet builds in the 1920 start because it's too easy for a player to game the system and build an unbalance fleet. Probably part of what he means is that players might use their legacy fleet to build CAs/CLs specifically meant to be converted to CVLs.
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Post by dutchyhd on May 16, 2019 1:45:03 GMT -6
1900's Netherlands (preferably with naval bases in south america and indonesia)
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Post by tc27 on May 16, 2019 1:49:55 GMT -6
1900 Japan all the way through to the 1950s...Japans a decent starter nation as theres not much overseas deployment needed and you can usually get into a decent war with Russia or a European nation.
The demo has whetted my appetite but im really looking forward to (as others have stated) having complete control of my legacy fleet and shaping the navy over 50 years.
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Post by wknehring on May 16, 2019 2:01:01 GMT -6
I think I will start with Japan in 1900 to have my own Legacy Fleet. The designs in the Demo are pretty garbage and it disturbes the flow of your 5 year game. And I don´t know if you can build your Legacy Fleet in 1920 too, or you get AI-generated designs. And in case I did a few good games with some successful airraids, I will go on with Germany 1920 (Treaty of Versailles and Washington Naval Treaty) and try to build my own Jeune Ecole-Kriegsmarine. Fredrik has said there won't be an option for manual legacy fleet builds in the 1920 start because it's too easy for a player to game the system and build an unbalance fleet. Probably part of what he means is that players might use their legacy fleet to build CAs/CLs specifically meant to be converted to CVLs.
Than it´s definately better to play 1900 (non-scenario) games, if you are going to do a 50 year game.
Let´s see what designs the German Versailles-Fleet will get
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Post by bshaftoe on May 16, 2019 3:19:33 GMT -6
I want to mod Spain in using as a base the files from RtW 1, and update them for RtW 2. I don't know how easy that will be.
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Post by pirateradar on May 16, 2019 3:26:38 GMT -6
I want to mod Spain in using as a base the files from RtW 1, and update them for RtW 2. I don't know how easy that will be. Spain is already in RtW2.E: I may have spoken too soon. Upon checking the .dats for Spain included in the demo they seem to be the same as in RtW1, which means no CV names or aircraft manufacturers listed.
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Post by yemo on May 16, 2019 3:32:44 GMT -6
Fredrik has said there won't be an option for manual legacy fleet builds in the 1920 start because it's too easy for a player to game the system and build an unbalance fleet. Probably part of what he means is that players might use their legacy fleet to build CAs/CLs specifically meant to be converted to CVLs.
Than it´s definately better to play 1900 (non-scenario) games, if you are going to do a 50 year game.
Let´s see what designs the German Versailles-Fleet will get Horrible ones, and they can not even build the Deutschland class to compensate. See my thread about "Washington AND Versailles treaty for Germany 1920"
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Post by wknehring on May 16, 2019 3:40:46 GMT -6
Than it´s definately better to play 1900 (non-scenario) games, if you are going to do a 50 year game.
Let´s see what designs the German Versailles-Fleet will get Horrible ones, and they can not even build the Deutschland class to compensate. See my thread about "Washington AND Versailles treaty for Germany 1920"
Yeah, I have seen it in the other threat.
The Pocketbattleships were one of the most influencing designs for nearly all European navies! The Royal navy was pissed they were restricted to built something equal and were forced to spend a lot of money into HMS Repair and HMS Refit. In addition the RN started to prefer CL instead of Washington CA, because they became obsolete over night. The French built the Dunkerque-Class, which resulted in the rebuild of the Conte di Cavour- and Caio Dulio-classes. And so on.
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Post by christian on May 16, 2019 4:11:04 GMT -6
japan 1900 defeneatly
i wanna go from my small islands to owning over half the world which with japans economic growth buff which hopefully should be there in 1915+ which should allow me to get a good fleet and dunk on people
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Post by rob06waves2018 on May 16, 2019 4:11:40 GMT -6
I don't think I'll ever play from 1920 after the demo - the fleet is just too - sorry guys - crap. I built better ships in RTW 1 by 1908. I get why you can't do a legacy fleet for 1920, but it does make it a lot harder to handle the logistics of the game, especially regarding foreign stations. Also a 12" gun 18 knt battle line in 1920 is just too obsolete in the general run of the game.
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Post by tc27 on May 16, 2019 4:54:38 GMT -6
Might be worth saving your 1900 game when it hits 1920/1925 and keeping the save file separately so you can have a 'late' game with a fleet that makes sense if you dont want to start from 1900 again with a given nation.
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Post by dorn on May 16, 2019 8:00:16 GMT -6
I think right now starting in 1920 is most difficult for colonial empires as they will have a lot of ships with short range and cramped accomodation so they are almost useless. But it is not possible to scrap them all as it means that your fleet will be not adequate. So it will need scrapping as much as possible and rebuilding slowly. With WNT in effect it will be difficult mainly for UK. Just thinking of start as UK.
Destroyers - could be easily replaced that ones with short range and cramped accomodation Cruisers - probably good to scrap cruisers with cramped accomodation. Some short range modern cruisers can be handy in the Mediterranean or Home waters. If cruisers has no short range or cramped accomodation they can be useful on foreign stations even if they are obsolute. Armoured cruisers - ideally large, fast but weakly armoured - it will be ideal ship for conversion to CVL Predreadnoughts - for scrap Capital ships - this will be more difficult as UK will have issue with budget, cannot build new capital ships and will have a lot of completely unsuitable ships with short range and cramped accomodation. So probably better will be faster ships that can ber refitted efficiently adding deck armour, increasing turrets armour.
Flash fires - for UK right now it is completely nightmare and combined with obsolute fleet it will be challange. Reconstruction to increase turret armour would be probably priority. This means that UK is probably nation which should focus on carrier most to suplement defficencies in capital ships.
Just start demo game as UK very large fleet. From 17 battleships (not included predreadnoughts) only 2! has guns larger 12".
From 15 battlecrusiers 6 battlecruisers has 12x13" (Gangut type, short range, so unseful), others only 12" guns (all Invincible type thus for scrap).
Another interesting thing is that UK has 46 capital ships (including predreadnoughts) and only 36 destroyers.
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Post by eaterofsuns on May 16, 2019 10:52:37 GMT -6
I'm going to be the Japan start combo breaker here and start with AH in 1900. I plan to spend the first 20ish years bullying Italy and France for all their med possessions while kissing British ass. After that I will build literally every air base possible in the region, and see if I can't sucker the poor ***** fleet in for a solid thrashing. The flag of the Dual Monarchy shall fly over every port and island in the Mediterranean Habsburg Sea.
Plus I really want to see if the 16,000 ton, 4x12", 22/23kt cheese ball super CA's make for decent CVL conversions.
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